The Internet Relay Chat logs of en.Wikipedia, part 1 of 10,000

The following is a collection of en.Wikipedia IRC logs from 2008 to 2012. These have been sitting in a dead laptop until now, and we will be copypasting them into blogposts probably for years.

The first weekend (June 6, 2008 to June 9, 2008)

Session Start: Fri Jun 06 07:50:42 2008
Session Ident: #Wikipedia-en
[07:50] * Now talking in #Wikipedia-en
[07:50] * Topic is 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Status: Up | Please observe [[m:IRC guidelines]] | To get op attention, join #wikimedia-ops or type !op followed by your request. | For an admin *in an emergency*, type !admin before a request. | No public logging. | SUL now enabled for all users! Info at [[Special:MergeAccount]] | Board elections are now open.  See [[Special:BoardVote]] to vote. '
[07:50] * Set by Rjd0060 on Mon Jun 02 17:40:20
[07:51] <lulz> good morning :)
[07:54] * Mm40 (n=chatzill@pool-96-225-77-3.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host) )
[07:55] * SwirlBoy39 (n=Swirl@unaffiliated/swirlboy39) has joined #wikipedia-en
[07:56] * lulz snuggles SwirlBoy39
[07:57] * Paintman (n=chatzill@wikipedia/Paintman) has left #wikipedia-en
[07:57] * SwirlBoy39 hugs lulz
[07:57] <SwirlBoy39> brb
[07:57] * charles___ (n=chatzill@89.129.58.133) Quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]" )
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[07:59] * lulz snuggles AzaTht
[07:59] * lulz snuggles Soxred93
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[08:01] * arcimboldo_ (n=eckhard@s169.HtokyoFL2.vectant.ne.jp) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:01] * TheLetterE changes topic to 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Status: Network maintenance @ 12:00 UTC | Please observe [[m:IRC guidelines]] | To get op attention, join #wikimedia-ops or type !op followed by your request. | For an admin *in an emergency*, type !admin before a request. | No public logging. | SUL now enabled for all users! Info at [[Special:MergeAccount]] | Board elections are now open.  See [[Special:BoardVote]] to vote. '
[08:02] * lulz snuggles TheLetterE
[08:02] <TheLetterE> :)
[08:03] <SwirlBoy39> [AGK|away]: Are you going to close AN? It's been a while
[08:04] <SwirlBoy39> Are any admins here?
[08:04] * TheLetterE is
[08:04] * JamieS93 (n=chatzill@adsl-155-179-130.gsp.bellsouth.net) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) )
[08:04] * lulz is not but he would like to be someday
[08:05] <SwirlBoy39> TheLetterE: Can you close this? It has been 8 hours -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN#User:SwirlBoy39_unban_proposal
[08:05] <carlitos> [[Harry Potter]]
[08:06] * lulz supports a unban too
[08:06] <TheLetterE> SwirlBoy39: I'd leave that up to another experienced admin, but I will pass it onto the admins channel.
[08:06] <SwirlBoy39> lulz: You have to endorse then
[08:07] <SwirlBoy39> Aw, ok TheLetterE
[08:07] <lulz> can't atm
[08:07] <lulz> it's down
[08:07] <lulz> :P
[08:07] <TheLetterE> SwirlBoy39: WP:CANVASS :P
[08:07] * lulz does a pelvic thrust to topic
[08:07] <lulz> how long it's down for maintenance?
[08:08] <TheLetterE> a few minutes
[08:08] <TheLetterE> we hope
[08:08] <TheLetterE> good luck to the devs :)
[08:08] * lulz predicts a insane amount of vandalism
[08:08] <TheLetterE> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-June/038212.html
[08:09] * Cirt (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/cirt) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:09] <lulz> Birthday suit yourselves
[08:09] <Cirt> hello
[08:09] <Cirt> is anyone able to load Wikipedia atm?
[08:09] <TheLetterE> Cirt: Hey, http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-June/038212.html
[08:09] * pm27 (n=dotirc@LRouen-152-81-39-153.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Connection timed out )
[08:09] * pm18 is now known as pm27
[08:09] <lulz> Cirt, nope
[08:09] <lulz> down
[08:09] <Cirt> :(
[08:09] <Cirt> weird timing
[08:09] <Cirt> I JUST finished an article
[08:09] <Cirt> wanted to nom for DYK
[08:09] <Cirt> but ...
[08:09] <Cirt> down
[08:09] <Cirt> :(
[08:09] <TheLetterE> :P
[08:09] <TheLetterE> shouldnt be too long mate
[08:09] <TheLetterE> :)
[08:10] <Cirt> but it is not 12:00 UTC ?
[08:10] <TheLetterE> it is...
[08:10] <TheLetterE> 12:10UTC
[08:10] <Cirt> oh
[08:10] <TheLetterE> they are just a bit late, but oh well :P
[08:10] <Cirt> :(
[08:10] * ejmeza (n=ejmeza@wikipedia/ejmeza) Quit ("Leaving." )
[08:10] <Cirt> ah
[08:11] <Cirt> hrmpf
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[08:12] <SwirlBoy39> TheLetterE: sorry :(
[08:13] <Cirt> any idea how long this was suppposed to take?
[08:13] <TheLetterE> 10-20 minutes
[08:13] <TheLetterE> id say
[08:13] <Cirt> k
[08:13] <Cirt> guess ill be back lata then
[08:13] <Cirt> thx TheLetterE !
[08:13] <Cirt> :)
[08:13] <TheLetterE> no problems, bye for now ;)
[08:13] * Cirt (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/cirt) Quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.82 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]" )
[08:14] <TheLetterE> and beginning to come back up now :)
[08:14] * Crazy_Louco (n=boloduro@201.30.55.19) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:14] <giggy> yay
[08:14] <TheLetterE> but only some have returned at this time
[08:14] <TheLetterE> upload just went down
[08:15] <TheLetterE> so i think they are still going...
[08:15] <giggy> :( still down
[08:16] * p858snake (n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake) Quit ("User Has Disconnected From The Server." )
[08:17] * carlitos (n=chatzill@89.129.58.133) Quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]" )
[08:17] <lulz> say it, don't spray it cheese dick
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[08:17] <TheLetterE> lulz: ?
[08:17] * Crazy_Louco (n=boloduro@201.30.55.19) Quit (Client Quit )
[08:17] <lulz> kidding
[08:18] <TheLetterE> enwiki has returned, dont know the full status though
[08:19] * carlitos (n=chatzill@89.129.58.133) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:20] * TheIslander|away (n=WikiIsla@unaffiliated/theislander) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:20] <giggy> still up and down
[08:20] <giggy> well, down for now
[08:20] <giggy> heya TheIslander|away, and luck with the Commons rename?
[08:21] <TheLetterE> yeah, mark has noted a reboot is coming shortly
[08:21] * lulz is now known as Cream
[08:22] <TheIslander|away> Heh, none :(. I'm being shot at from a load of different angles, and it appears that I will have to change my name.
[08:22] <SwirlBoy39> TheLetterE: any experienced admins now?
[08:22] * TheIslander|away is now known as TheIslander
[08:22] <TheLetterE> SwirlBoy39: not sure, but someone is sure to come around sometime soon
[08:22] <SwirlBoy39> TheLetterE: I hope so :)
[08:22] <giggy> TheIslander, :( you could always go back to TheIslander
[08:23] <TheIslander> True. Bearing in mind that throughout this 'episode' I've been refered to as enIslander, I'm almost thinking of changing to that :P
[08:23] <giggy> heh
[08:24] <TheIslander> ANyway, off for now - just popping in to see source of wikimedia errors... bye :)
[08:24] * TheIslander is now known as TheIslander|away
[08:25] * SteveCrossin (n=chatzill@c58-107-242-113.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:25] <Cream> there's drama in Ottawa atm
[08:25] <Cream> oh hai SteveCrossin <3
[08:25] <SteveCrossin> hi
[08:25] <SteveCrossin> dammit
[08:25] <TheLetterE> maintenance seems finished now
[08:25] * SwirlBoy39 attempts to wait patiently
[08:26] * SteveCrossin (n=chatzill@c58-107-242-113.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) Quit (Client Quit )
[08:26] <Cream> wtf
[08:26] <SwirlBoy39> Is wikipedia down?
[08:26] <Avruch> nah, still down
[08:26] <Cream> new Huggle
[08:27] * JamieS93_ (n=chatzill@adsl-155-179-130.gsp.bellsouth.net) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:27] * JamieS93_ is now known as JamieS93
[08:27] <Crimedog> Huggle = Editcount fairy :)
[08:27] <Cream> I agree
[08:28] <Cream> set it to all edits as non minor
[08:28] <Cream> then watch editcount rise
[08:28] <Crimedog> Vandal reverts should not be minor
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[08:29] * Juliancolton (i=4579f4ad@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9edad8c7662f51eb) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:29] <Juliancolton> Is Wikipedia acting weird for anybody?
[08:30] * Soxred93 (n=Soxred93@unaffiliated/soxred93) Quit (No route to host )
[08:30] <Huntster> Juliancolton, server maintenance.
[08:30] <Juliancolton> Ah
[08:30] <TheLetterE> it seems to be off and on at the moment
[08:30] <TheLetterE> it seems up now
[08:30] <Juliancolton> It's up now, but the pages are blank
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[08:30] <Huntster> yes, going through the global motions...toolserver in middle of restart now, I believe.
[08:30] <giggy> back up it seems
[08:31] <Cream> anyone remember 3½ floppy dicks?
[08:31] <Cream> disks
[08:31] <Cream> :P
[08:31] <Huntster> give it another 15 minutes, everything should be in order.
[08:31] <Huntster> Cream, bwahaha.
[08:31] <Huntster> but yes.
[08:31] <Juliancolton> Alright
[08:32] <Cream> my memory's fuzzier than Wikipedia's current status
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[08:34] * Cream snuggles sceptre
[08:34] <SynergeticMag> Huntster: what to play a game?
[08:34] <SynergeticMag> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mil_Falcon/Star_Wars_Christmas/Begin
[08:35] <sceptre> :o
[08:35] <sceptre> i sees a giggy
[08:35] * sceptre huggles
[08:35] * Juliancolton huggles sceptre
[08:35] * SynergeticMag stabs Juliancolton
[08:35] <giggy> sceptre, :O
[08:36] * Juliancolton hooks the maggot onto a fishing hook and drowns it in a lake
[08:36] <SynergeticMag> at least i'd be eaten!
[08:36] * SwirlBoy39 looks at TheLetterE
[08:37] * Juliancolton huggles SwirlBoy39
[08:37] * Cream is now known as SnuggleBear
[08:37] <TheLetterE> SwirlBoy39: one of the crats have noted thery will look over it shortly
[08:37] <Huntster> SynergeticMag, lmao, glad those are MfD.
[08:37] * SwirlBoy39 huggles Juliancolton
[08:37] * Juliancolton huggles SnuggleBear
[08:38] <SwirlBoy39> May I ask who The?
[08:38] <SwirlBoy39> TheLetterE: *
[08:38] <SynergeticMag> i'm not :( i just shot the stormtrooper
[08:38] <TheLetterE> SwirlBoy39: there is two there, not sure which one
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[08:39] * TheLetterE changes topic to 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Status: Up | Please observe [[m:IRC guidelines]] | To get op attention, join #wikimedia-ops or type !op followed by your request. | For an admin *in an emergency*, type !admin before a request. | No public logging. | SUL now enabled for all users! Info at [[Special:MergeAccount]] | Board elections are now open.  See [[Special:BoardVote]] to vote. '
[08:39] <TheLetterE> All done :)
[08:39] * Juliancolton huggles TheLetterE
[08:40] * SnuggleBear is now known as Cream
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[08:43] <sceptre> great...
[08:44] <sceptre> you take a massive problem to RFAR and they want you to lynch :(
[08:44] <SynergeticMag> ID?
[08:44] <giggy> yep
[08:44] <giggy> sceptre, you gonna bother with it?
[08:44] <SynergeticMag> i hate ID
[08:45] <sceptre> giggy: I'm going to keep at it until some smack is laid down
[08:45] <Cream> Any admin? I need a page deleted
[08:45] <giggy> sceptre, fo shizzle
[08:45] <SynergeticMag> it's got to be the worst pro christian ideal to suport
[08:45] <sceptre> giggy: they went over the line in your RFA
[08:45] <giggy> :O
[08:45] <giggy> o rly?
[08:45] <giggy> :P
[08:46] <SynergeticMag> sceptre: explain to me where that line was?
[08:46] <SynergeticMag> set*
[08:46] * SwirlBoy39 (n=Swirl@unaffiliated/swirlboy39) Quit ("I'll brb -- just a sec" )
[08:46] <sceptre> SynergeticMag: well, they called LaraLove and giggy racists
[08:47] <SynergeticMag> not really....
[08:47] <SynergeticMag> as far as i recall, OM said it was because he couldn't "recognize racist code words"
[08:47] <TheLetterE> hmm i'm going to head out. night all :)
[08:47] <SynergeticMag> not the same thing as calling someone a racist
[08:48] <Juliancolton> TheLetterE: 'morning :P
[08:48] <SynergeticMag> bye TheLetterE
[08:48] <Cream> Any admin?
[08:48] <TheLetterE> cya giggy
[08:48] <TheLetterE> Cream: if its quick, yes...
[08:48] <giggy> bye TheLetterE !
[08:48] <Cream> Yes
[08:48] <Cream> a quick delete
[08:49] <TheLetterE> sure, link please and a reason if not already CSD'd
[08:49] <SynergeticMag> main page
[08:49] <sceptre> SynergeticMag: well, if not for that, they definitely ruined the undertow's reputation
[08:49] <TheLetterE> Cream, got it. thanks
[08:49] <TheLetterE> will do now
[08:49] <SynergeticMag> they brought the undertow into giggy;s rfa?
[08:49] <sceptre> yeah
[08:49] * SynergeticMag looks back into it
[08:49] <giggy> SynergeticMag, you obviously weren't watching very hard :P
[08:50] <SynergeticMag> well, i made a statement, then when i got back from work, it was blanked
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[08:50] <TheLetterE> Cream: Done.
[08:50] * ejmeza (n=ejmeza@wikipedia/ejmeza) Quit ("Leaving." )
[08:50] <TheLetterE> im out, bye :)
[08:51] * TheLetterE (n=TheLette@wikimedia/E) Quit ("User:E" )
[08:51] * Martinp23 (i=martinp2@freenode/staff/wikimedia.martinp23) has joined #wikipedia-en
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[08:52] * majorly_away is now known as Majorly
[08:53] * Juliancolton questions Majorly's Majorlyness
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[08:54] <Cream> brb
[08:54] <Cream> calling work
[08:54] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: Hey!
[08:54] <Ryanposs> hello SwirlBoy39
[08:55] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: Look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN#User:SwirlBoy39_unban_proposal
[08:55] <giggy> :O Ryanposs
[08:55] <carlitos> Hi all
[08:56] <carlitos> does someone know if we have an image like this http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagen:Wikipedia_growth.png
[08:56] <SwirlBoy39> carlitos: ya
[08:56] <carlitos> but showing the Spanish language
[08:56] <Ryanposs> giggy: what are you :Oing at?
[08:56] <SwirlBoy39> carlitos: no, sorry
[08:57] <giggy> Ryanposs, why, your sexiness, of coures.
[08:57] <giggy> and my spelling
[08:57] <SynergeticMag> i guess i did miss a bit of that rfa
[08:57] <Ryanposs> Ah, thought so
[08:57] <Ryanposs> it couldn't be anything else really
[08:57] <SwirlBoy39> :O
[08:57] <SwirlBoy39> O_o
[08:57] <SynergeticMag> maybe that jean jacket
[08:57] <SynergeticMag> unless my eyes are just blurred
[08:58] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: Can you close my AN please?
[08:58] <Ryanposs> SwirlBoy39: I'm going to close your unban discussion
[08:58] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: K thanks
[08:58] <Ryanposs> There's no clear consensus to unban you so I'm going to have to block you
[08:58] * Farosdaughter (i=83fb8683@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-696f28419bd18dc2) has joined #wikipedia-en
[08:58] <Ryanposs> sorry mate
[08:58] <SwirlBoy39> HUH?
[08:59] <Ryanposs> Try again in 3 months
[08:59] <Ryanposs> I'll give you the appeal myself
[08:59] <SwirlBoy39> wait, PM
[08:59] <Juliancolton> He's kidding I think
[08:59] <Ryanposs> I won't tag your userpage as banned though
[08:59] <SwirlBoy39> :O
[08:59] <SwirlBoy39> :'(
[08:59] <SwirlBoy39> All that work.
[08:59] * giggy is surprised he hasn't appeared on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NoSeptember/RfA_voting_records yet
[09:00] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: Serious?
[09:00] <Ryanposs> Well, unfortunately the community doesn't think you should be unbanned
[09:00] <SwirlBoy39> its all endorses!
[09:00] <SynergeticMag> i don't like that NoSept stuff
[09:00] <SynergeticMag> i got bothered to add an rfa to one of those
[09:00] <Juliancolton> SwirlBoy39: How can you edit if you're banned?
[09:00] <Ryanposs> It's not all endorse - you're clearly overexagerating it because you want to be unbanned
[09:00] * Soxred93_ (n=Soxred93@mail.harwood.org) Quit ("XCHat ftw" )
[09:00] <SynergeticMag> the unsuccessful one should be sufficient
[09:00] <SwirlBoy39> wtf is going on?
[09:01] <SwirlBoy39> it says!
[09:01] <Ryanposs> SwirlBoy39: Right, I'm about to close and block
[09:01] <Ryanposs> Discussion closed....
[09:01] <SwirlBoy39> No!
[09:01] <Ryanposs> and blocked.
[09:01] * SynergeticMag sips coffee
[09:01] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: Nice. :P
[09:02] <Juliancolton> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=&year=&month=-1 :P
[09:02] * Reedy (n=Reedy@wikimedia/Reedy) Quit ("Leaving" )
[09:02] <SwirlBoy39> scare me to death *grumbles*
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[09:03] <SwirlBoy39> [AGK|away]: Your friends are cruel.
[09:03] <Juliancolton> SwirlBoy39: Who told you he was kidding? Hmm...
[09:03] <SwirlBoy39> ????????
[09:04] <Juliancolton> "8:59 <Juliancolton> He's kidding I think "
[09:04] <Ryanposs> SwirlBoy39: I've closed it now
[09:04] * SwirlBoy39 looks
[09:05] * giggy gives Ryanposs the barnstar of zing
[09:05] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: No you haven't...
[09:06] * SwirlBoy39 wheels over Ryanposs 's foot for being a meanie :P
[09:06] <Ryanposs> SwirlBoy39: I have closed it!
[09:06] <Ryanposs> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=217527530
[09:07] <SwirlBoy39> OMG
[09:07] <SwirlBoy39> It's OVER!
[09:07] <SwirlBoy39> I'm FREE
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[09:07] <Cream> zomg
[09:07] * Juliancolton huggles SwirlBoy39
[09:07] * pm22 is now known as pm27
[09:07] * SwirlBoy39 happy dances
[09:07] <Cream> okay chumps and chumpettes
[09:07] <Ryanposs> SwirlBoy39: Don't do anything silly now though
[09:08] * SwirlBoy39 grabs Juliancolton and dances
[09:08] <Juliancolton> zOMG don't vandalize now
[09:08] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: I wanna DANCE!
[09:08] * SwirlBoy39 dances
[09:08] <Ryanposs> Well dance on IRC, not on-wiki
[09:08] <SwirlBoy39> deal
[09:09] * Cream offers SwirlBoy39 a pole
[09:09] * Ryanposs creams cream
[09:09] <SwirlBoy39> Ryanposs: can I removed the {{banned user}} temp?
[09:09] <Juliancolton> O.O
[09:09] <Ryanposs> SwirlBoy39: where from?
[09:09] <SwirlBoy39> g2g
[09:09] <SwirlBoy39> Bugman94
[09:09] * SwirlBoy39 (n=Swirl@unaffiliated/swirlboy39) Quit ("I'll brb -- just a sec" )
[09:10] * Majorly (n=Majorly@wikimedia/Majorly) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) )
[09:10] <Ryanposs> I'm still thiking about it
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[09:10] * Cream snuggles Ryanposs
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[09:11] <Cream> okay
[09:11] <Phoenixwi> WP:N is the biggest load of crap I ever saw...take a look at AFD today
[09:11] <Cream> i'm out
[09:11] <Cream> have a good day
[09:12] <Ryanposs> Phoenixwi: Take it to MfD then and see how far you get
[09:12] <Phoenixwi> hey Majorly
Session Close: Fri Jun 06 09:12:28 2008

Session Start: Fri Jun 06 09:12:28 2008
Session Ident: #Wikipedia-en
[09:12] SpamTunes stopped.
[09:12] * Disconnected
Session Close: Fri Jun 06 09:12:28 2008

Session Start: Fri Jun 06 22:26:30 2008
Session Ident: #Wikipedia-en
[22:26] * Now talking in #Wikipedia-en
[22:26] * Topic is 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Status: Up | Please observe [[m:IRC guidelines]] | To get op attention, join #wikimedia-ops or type !op followed by your request. | For an admin *in an emergency*, type !admin before a request. | No public logging. | SUL now enabled for all users! Info at [[Special:MergeAccount]] | Board elections are now open.  See [[Special:BoardVote]] to vote. '
[22:26] * Set by NotASpy on Fri Jun 06 21:29:46
[22:26] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[22:26] * Juliancolton lulz
[22:26] <TenPoundHammer> I never page blanked
[22:26] <Gracenotes> or a request of page deletion by author *_*
[22:26] <lulz> oh hai Juliancolton
[22:27] * lulz is now known as Cream
[22:27] <Juliancolton> hai
[22:27] <Cream> Amazing fireworks tonight
[22:27] <Cream> with a explosive grand finale
[22:27] <ChyranandChloe> just reminding you - after you subscribe it to your watch list - it can get tempting
[22:27] <ChyranandChloe> after a few months of course
[22:27] <ChyranandChloe> but that's when I've given up
[22:29] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[22:29] <Cream> There was fog, so it rendered the fireworks more mysterious
[22:29] <Cream> kinda like a nebulae
[22:30] <TenPoundHammer> Cream: Why fireworks tonight?
[22:30] <Cream> well, there's a partnership between a town and a cruise company
[22:31] <TenPoundHammer> ?
[22:31] <Cream> so tonight there was a corporative cruise with supper and fireworks
[22:31] <Cream> and i was sitting on the hill
[22:31] <Cream> looking at fireworks
[22:31] <TenPoundHammer> ah
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[22:31] <Cream> and fucking with people with my green laz0r pointer
[22:32] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[22:32] <Juliancolton> TenPoundHammer: Is this AfD worthy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina_in_the_Junior_Eurovision_Song_Contest
[22:32] <Cream> some kids tried to annoy me with a red one
[22:32] <Cream> i retaliated with my green
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[22:33] <TenPoundHammer> Juliancolton: Yes.
[22:33] <Juliancolton> Ok
[22:33] <TenPoundHammer> I did it already Juliancolton
[22:33] <Juliancolton> I CSD'd it, but it was never deleted somehow
[22:33] <Juliancolton> Thanks
[22:34] <TenPoundHammer> it was deleted back on may 10
[22:34] <Juliancolton> Ooh, ok
[22:35] <Warpath> !CU O_O
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[22:38] * Cream tries to predict the t-storm
[22:38] <Cream> no hi to Warpath
[22:38] <Cream> hai to Rjd0060
[22:39] * Cream snuggles TenPoundHammer
[22:39] * Cream snuggles animum
[22:39] * Cream huggles Sceptre
[22:39] * Cream doesn't snuggle Warpath
[22:39] * Cream snuggles Rjd0060
[22:39] <Gracenotes> critical success
[22:39] * TenPoundHammer snuggles Cream back
[22:39] * Cream snuggles Gracenotes
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[22:40] * FastLizard4 vaporizes Cream
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[22:40] * Cream snuggles FastLizard4|away
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[22:41] <Rjd0060> sorry Cream ; was reading some scrollback :) Hello
[22:42] <TenPoundHammer> lol
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[22:45] <Sceptre> Gracenotes: silly you
[22:45] <Sceptre> it's "Huge Success!"
[22:46] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[22:46] <Gracenotes> I contend its status as a critical success. the masses did not appreciate it, but the intellectuals among us savored every character.
[22:51] <animum> Eureka?
[22:55] <Sceptre> I love 24
[22:56] <Sceptre> "Why is Bauer on Flight 520?" / "You have no idea what you're getting yourself into, you little asskisser"
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[22:58] <Macy> Finally, I'm done with my script
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[22:59] <Macy> for now, bye to everyone
[22:59] <Cream> zomg‽‽‽‽‽
[22:59] <Cream> Bye bye‽‽‽‽‽
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[22:59] <RyRy5> Cream: Are you ready for the renovation I was waiting for?
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[23:04] * FastLizard4|away throws a ✈✈✈✈ at Cream
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[23:05] <Cream> RyRy5, yup
[23:05] <Cream> go ahead
[23:06] <DeadEyeArrow> eh dhmo went back to giggy?
[23:07] * giggy nods
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[23:07] <DeadEyeArrow> cool, liked it better
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[23:08] * giggy too :D
[23:09] * animum huggles giggy giggily.
[23:10] * giggy eats animum
[23:10] * animum is eaten.
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[23:12] <Avruch> can someone familiar with the miszabot archiving look at my talkpage and tell me what I am doing wrong? ;p
[23:12] <Cream> Avruch, get ClueBotIII
[23:13] <Avruch> pfft, I just want to get the template with the counter working right ;)
[23:17] <animum> ClueBot III = awesome
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[23:20] <Avruch> cluebot doesn't increment the pages 'tho does it?
[23:20] <ViciousGu> Hey dudes
[23:20] <animum> 86 users currently use ClueBot III.
[23:20] <ViciousGu> Did you hear about my Wikipedia picture taking trip at various consulates?
[23:20] <RyRy5> Cream: I'll do it a little later
[23:21] <ViciousGu> I often go on picture-taking trips to post stuff on Wikipedia
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[23:22] <Tinkleheimer> Whee!
[23:23] <Tinkleheimer> Well'ello!
[23:24] <animum> Hello, Tinkleheimer. :-)
[23:24] <Tinkleheimer> Hi animum :)
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[23:28] <Cream> okay
[23:28] <Cream> nite <3
[23:28] <Tinkleheimer> GNight!
Session Close: Fri Jun 06 23:29:03 2008




Session Start: Sun Jun 08 19:49:40 2008
Session Ident: #Wikipedia-en
[19:49] * Now talking in #Wikipedia-en
[19:49] * Topic is 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Status: Up | Please observe [[m:IRC guidelines]] | To get op attention, join #wikimedia-ops or type !op followed by your request. | For an admin *in an emergency*, type !admin before a request. | No public logging. | SUL now enabled for all users! Info at [[Special:MergeAccount]] | Board elections are now open.  See [[Special:BoardVote]] to vote. '
[19:49] * Set by NotASpy on Fri Jun 06 21:29:46
[19:50] <Wizardman> heh
[19:50] <lulz> missed me?
[19:50] <Wizardman> there's abother 2k or so baseball players to write articles about
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[19:59] <Juliancolton> Wizardman, what was that article again?
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[19:59] <Wizardman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Houtteman
[19:59] <Wizardman> I'm gonna go nom it now
[20:00] <Wizardman> No opposes in the last FAC, but not enough eyes so it failed
[20:00] <Juliancolton> :(
[20:00] * Cream snuggles Juliancolton
[20:00] <Juliancolton> :s
[20:00] * Juliancolton *huggles* Cream
[20:00] <Wizardman> taking it straight to FAC and skipping GAN was a smart move thogh
[20:00] <Wizardman> Helped the article grow
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[20:01] <Juliancolton> That's what I might do with an article I'm working on
[20:01] <Gracenotes> hm, someone blocked me on YouTube for commenting that a quote they cited was a falsified quote D:
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[20:03] <Gracenotes> DRAHMAS :O
[20:03] <Wizardman> Julian: put it at fac, so when you're done looking at it just comment there :)
[20:04] <VanTucky> I'm tired of people thinking GA is some form of copyediting tool prior to FAC
[20:04] <VanTucky> if you think it's really FA-class, just don't do GA
[20:04] <VanTucky> GA is for articles that could never be FA, for whatever reason
[20:04] <Wizardman> That's what I do now
[20:05] <Wizardman> failed FA, passed GA, now I'm trying FA again
[20:05] <VanTucky> now I like that approach
[20:05] <VanTucky> if you fail FA, definitely take it to GA
[20:06] <VanTucky> they're working on a reform of GA right now too, so we'll see how that turns out
[20:06] <VanTucky> I haven't reviewed in like a month
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[20:06] <Wizardman> I only review subjects I understand
[20:06] <Juliancolton> Wizardman: Alright
[20:06] <Wizardman> unfortunately, that's not a lot
[20:06] <Juliancolton> VanTucky: Agree
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[20:08] * Juliancolton thinks they shouldn't have messed with GAN
[20:09] <Wizardman> Since I have an FAC up, I should do the right thing and review some other FACs
[20:09] <Juliancolton> [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/New York State Route 28]] ;)
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[20:14] <Wizardman> I'll go finish a list of 3000+ people while I wait
[20:14] <Lubaf> I can has flesh of teh living?
[20:15] <Wizardman> wait..
[20:15] <Wizardman> 1787 players. I exaggerated
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[20:24] <Juliancolton> Wizardman: I left some comments
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[20:25] <Wizardman> alright
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[20:25] <Juliancolton> Pretty good article you got there
[20:26] <Wizardman> thanks
[20:26] <Wizardman> I'll look through the comments in abotu 30 minutes. In the middle of a large edit righ tnow
[20:27] <Juliancolton> Ok
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[20:32] <Not_the_NSA> Anyone know how to find a cube root on a TI calculator?
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[20:32] <Prodego> yes
[20:32] <Freya> raise to 1/3rd
[20:32] <Freya> like x^(1/3)
[20:32] <Prodego> math, 3rd root
[20:32] <Prodego> or you can do that
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[20:44] <Tinkleheimer> Are there any En-Oversighters on?
[20:44] <Majorly> probably not
[20:44] <Majorly> oversighters don't tend to come on ic
[20:44] <Majorly> irc
[20:45] <MZMcBride> Tinkleheimer: E-mail User:Oversight.
[20:45] <MZMcBride> They're incredibly quick usually.
[20:46] * TenPoundHammer yawns
[20:46] <Tinkleheimer> I sent in a request last night
[20:47] <Tinkleheimer> And it appears that diffs are still there.
[20:47] <NotASpy> what e-mail address did you use ?
[20:47] <BoL> hey Tinkleheimer
[20:48] <Tinkleheimer> Whichever one was on the Requests for Oversight page
[20:48] <Tinkleheimer> I clicked the link to do Wiki-email
[20:48] <MZMcBride> Tinkleheimer: That usually means that the oversight was declined.
[20:48] <MZMcBride> A lot of requests are.
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[20:50] <Wizardman> heh
[20:51] <Wizardman> he leaves just as i come back to reviews the cmts he left
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[20:58] <Tinkleheimer> Whee!
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[20:59] <TenPoundHammer> whee?
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[21:00] * animum slaps Chetblong.
[21:00] <Chetblong> :O
[21:00] * Chetblong glomps An
[21:00] <Chetblong> O_O
[21:00] <FastLizard4> Fun commands in all operating systems:
[21:00] * Chetblong glomps animum
[21:01] <FastLizard4> 1. Linux: ``sudo rm -rf /''
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[21:01] * JamieS93 looks at the previously-more-silent channel
[21:01] <FastLizard4> 2. Linus: ``sudo sh -c;cat /dev/urandom > /dev/kmem &''
[21:01] <FastLizard4> *Linux
[21:01] <animum> 3. Windows:  Try to install linux.
[21:01] <FastLizard4> 3. Windows: ``attrib C:\WINDOWS\*.* -h -s -a
[21:01] <animum> *Linux
[21:01] <Chetblong> hehe
[21:01] <FastLizard4> 3b. deltree C:\WINDOWS
[21:02] <FastLizard4> much fun ensues
[21:02] <Chetblong> lol
[21:02] <animum> Lol
[21:03] <JamieS93> lollol
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[21:03] <animum> Or better yet, delete user32.dll :-p
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[21:03] <FastLizard4> no
[21:03] <FastLizard4> delete rundll32.exer
[21:03] <FastLizard4> *rundll32.exe
[21:03] <FastLizard4> better yet
[21:04] <FastLizard4> just delete C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 :P
[21:04] <Lubaf> [[Wikipedia:Write articles in Yodaspeak you should not, yes]]: I see a great need.
[21:04] <Krimpet> Windows locks all running executable files...
[21:04] <Crimedog> but Linux will let you
[21:04] <Krimpet> deleting the Windows folder would start to work until it hits an executable in use, and it'd stop.
[21:04] <FastLizard4> Linux is smpler
[21:05] <Krimpet> Crimedog: yep
[21:05] <Crimedog> I see some celeberties here
[21:08] <Wizardman> how do I link to wiktionary definition in a wikipedia article
[21:08] <Wizardman> ?
[21:09] <east718|away> Wizardman > {{wt}}
[21:09] <Wizardman> thanks
[21:10] <Wizardman> uh.. i don't think it worked.
[21:10] <Soxred93> C:\ cd install_linux
[21:10] <Wizardman> or i screwed it up
[21:10] <Soxred93> C:\ make
[21:10] <Soxred93> C:\ make install
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[21:10] <Soxred93> Invalid syntax
[21:11] <Soxred93> (then comes a BSoD)
[21:11] <Wizardman> lemme rephrase my question.
[21:11] <Wizardman> Let's say a sentence in the article says "The glass in the jar is brown" How would i make "jar" link to the entry on wiktionary?
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[21:11] <east718|away> lol
[21:11] <east718|away> [[wikt:foo]]
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[21:12] <Crimedog> or [[wikt:foo|foo]]
[21:12] <Wizardman> there we go. thanks
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[21:15] <Krimpet> Wizardman: [[wikt:jar|]]
[21:15] <Krimpet> oh, beaten. :p
[21:15] <Crimedog> Does the pipe by itself expand to the linked word?
[21:15] <Krimpet> my wikilink script expanded the examples above, so I didn't see em. <_<
[21:16] <Krimpet> Crimedog: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pipe_trick
[21:16] <Krimpet> it does, along with several other handy things. :)
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[21:18] <Crimedog> I assume "pipe" in this context is a misnomer
[21:19] <Crimedog> feature must have been designed by unix shell geeks
[21:19] <MZMcBride> |
[21:19] <MZMcBride> Pipe.
[21:19] <MZMcBride> Or vertical bar.
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[21:20] <Crimedog> Ot was | called "pipe" before it was used to direct the output of a program as the imput to another
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[21:21] <Miranda> what's the warning for hoax?
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[21:21] <MZMcBride> Miranda: {{uw-hoax}} ?
[21:22] <Miranda> thanks
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[21:22] <Crimedog> tempted to make {{uw-Steaming-pile-of-shit}}
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[21:23] <MBisanz> I couldve sworn I deleted that MZM
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[21:23] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[21:24] <Crimedog> Hi hammer
[21:24] <TenPoundHammer> ?
[21:24] <Crimedog> He has a 10lb hammer but they wont give him a mop :(
[21:25] <TenPoundHammer> I know
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[21:25] <Wizardman> not my fault :/
[21:25] <TenPoundHammer> that's cause my articles keep whacking other people with their tails
[21:26] <Crimedog> Actually, I think the mop/janitor metaphor is BS
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[21:28] <TenPoundHammer> crimedog: o rly?
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[21:28] <Crimedog> CZ got it right by calling them constables
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[21:29] <Krimpet> it'd be nice if the "janitor" thing were true in practice. sadly, it's just become one rung in a bloated bureaucracy. :/
[21:30] <Crimedog> Im sorry, if you can push a button to keep me from editing then you ain't np fracking janitor
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[21:31] <MBisanz> apparently I did delate {{Hoaxblock}}
[21:31] <Crimedog> RFA "voters" don't act like they're electing janitors. More like they're picking the Pope
[21:32] <MBisanz> the pope only requires a 67% vote
[21:32] <TenPoundHammer> MBisanz: what was {{hoaxblock}} for?
[21:32] <MBisanz> we demand high standards of our RFA candidates
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[21:32] <MBisanz> poorly formed version of {{us-hoax}}
[21:33] <MBisanz> {{uw-hoax}}
[21:33] <TenPoundHammer> ?
[21:33] <Crimedog> How was the percentage decided anyway, was it always the same?
[21:33] <MBisanz> Crimedog, I think its always been around 75%
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[21:34] <MBisanz> TPH, it was non-standard, I took it to TFD, and it was deleted
[21:34] <TenPoundHammer> ah
[21:34] <TenPoundHammer> non standard how?
[21:36] * MBisanz gets on soapbox
[21:36] <MBisanz> clears throat
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[21:37] <MZMcBride>  /clear
[21:37] <MBisanz> {{MIPblock}} is one of the remaining non-standard blocking templates
[21:37] <MBisanz> you'll note it does not describe how to request unblock
[21:38] <MBisanz> its not used in the current UTM warning scheme
[21:38] <MBisanz> and is unmaintained
[21:38] <MBisanz> I like everything ot be standardized
[21:38] <MBisanz> which is why i'm now TfDing that template
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[21:39] <MZMcBride> Some people describe that as OCD...
[21:39] * MBisanz stares at MZMcBride's deletion log
[21:39] * Gracenotes wonders who those "some people" are
[21:40] <MBisanz> Hello kettle, my name is pot
[21:40] <MZMcBride> I've been deleting user pages all day.
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[21:43] <MBisanz> and MZMcBride, before we tlak about OCD, I am running a bot atm to stnadardize all non-free image tags
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[21:43] <MZMcBride> Though your spelling certainly doesn't suggest OCD...
[21:44] <DarkoNeko> MBisanz > you standadize all them with {{deletion}} ? :)
[21:44] <MBisanz> yes DarkNeko
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[21:44] <DarkoNeko> you're missing an o ._.
[21:44] <MZMcBride> Heh.
[21:45] <Gracenotes> #REDIRECT [[Template:Db-exists]]
[21:45] <MBisanz> I've also become rather adept at using {{softredirect}} to evade deletionbot MZMcBride
[21:45] <MZMcBride> I cleaned up {{softredirect}} at some point.
[21:46] <MZMcBride> It used to be really ugly.
[21:46] <MZMcBride> And I bet I use it more than you. ;)
[21:46] <Soxred93> Boy, this is bittersweet. I feel honored to have spoken to Grawp (or a wannabe)
[21:46] <MBisanz> I bet my purpose is more inane than yours
[21:47] <DarkoNeko> Soxred93 i'd feel soiled, kinda
[21:47] <quanticle> Krimpet: Are you there?
[21:47] <MZMcBride> Hahaha. Probably.
[21:47] <Krimpet> quanticle: yep
[21:47] <Gracenotes> :.
[21:47] <DarkoNeko> wait, not the right word
[21:47] <quanticle> Krimpet: In libIRC, what is the handler for /me actions?
[21:47] <DarkoNeko> "dirty"
[21:48] <quanticle> Soxred93: Posting in epic thread?
[21:48] <Crimedog> Soft redirects only work on other wikimedia projects right?
[21:48] <Soxred93> ?
[21:49] <Gracenotes> soft redirects in the technical sense of the term work for anything on our interwiki map.
[21:49] <MZMcBride> What?
[21:49] <Gracenotes> say what?
[21:49] <MZMcBride> "Soft redirects" don't do anything. That's the point.
[21:49] <Crimedog> So you can soft redirect to meatball
[21:49] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[21:49] <Gracenotes> MZMcBride: by which I mean #REDIRECTs which display as redirects but are merely links
[21:49] <Gracenotes> soft redirects in the template sense of the term can probably go anywhere.
[21:49] <quanticle> Crimedog: meatball?
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[21:50] <Krimpet> quanticle: on_action I think
[21:50] <CWii> hey KrimpBotII
[21:50] <MZMcBride> Gracenotes: If someone uses #REDIRECT [[]] to try to go off-site, it's converted to {{softredirect}}.
[21:50] <CWii> wait KrimpBotII ???
[21:50] <Crimedog> meatball, a nom wikimedia wiki but in the interwiki table
[21:50] <MZMcBride> Because it shows up in broken redirects queries, which is annoying.
[21:50] <Crimedog> er non
[21:50] <CWii> Krimpet, ...... ;-)
[21:50] <MZMcBride> Crimedog: Use [[Template:Softredirect]].
[21:50] <Krimpet> CWii: ?
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[21:50] <TenPoundHammer> hey, can someone help please
[21:51] <CWii> Krimpet, what's KrimpBotII
[21:51] <MZMcBride> TenPoundHammer: Hm?
[21:51] <Gracenotes> MZMcBride: by a bot?
[21:51] <TenPoundHammer> MZMcBride: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_Desk#Helping_nominating_Allegations_of_Israeli_Apartheid_for_deletion
[21:51] <MZMcBride> Gracenotes: By me, usually.
[21:51] <Gracenotes> same thing? :)
[21:51] <MZMcBride> Nope, I do it manually. :)
[21:51] <Crimedog> Has it been AFDd before?
[21:52] <TenPoundHammer> Crimedog: Yes, seven times
[21:52] <Gracenotes> not to mention one or two RFARs
[21:53] <Crimedog> Were any fo the outcomes clean keeps?
[21:53] <TenPoundHammer> Crimedog, lemme check
[21:53] <east718|away> several articles in the allegations of apartheid family were deleted and forbidden from recreation by arbcom. ^_^
[21:53] <quanticle> Krimpet: Thank you, it is indeed on_action
[21:53] <TenPoundHammer> east718|away: O rly?
[21:54] <TenPoundHammer> east718|away: you wanna tell him that?
[21:54] <Gracenotes> Crimedog: basically, those in favor of deleting that main article created other allegations of apartheid articles and voted keep on their AFDs to make a POINT
[21:54] <MBisanz> why am I surprised a bcat made such a horrific template.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Warningkt
[21:54] <east718|away> TenPoundHammer > less violent wars have been fought than the one over allegations...
[21:54] <Gracenotes> a bit of a simplification, I guess, but at least that's what the charges against them were. I'd tend to agree.
[21:55] <Gracenotes> MBisanz: that template is insulting to those who do not have intelligence. I demand we delete it immediately!
[21:55] <DarkoNeko> usually, something offend more the intelligence than the stupidity
[21:56] <east718|away> http://tinyurl.com/5dz5xr is pretty ._.
[21:56] <DarkoNeko> ouch
[21:56] <Crimedog> Kind of sounds like the title of the articles themselfs suggest OR
[21:56] <DarkoNeko> abuse of red, bad for the eyes
[21:56] <DarkoNeko> ah wait, that's the one lower :)
[21:57] <MBisanz> I created the BITEiest block template ever last night
[21:57] <east718|away> MBisanz goaded some poor nub admin into /actually using/ the "no user page" one on somebody. :p
[21:57] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[21:57] <Not_the_NSA> MBisanz: link?
[21:57] <Not_the_NSA> east718|away: lol
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[21:57] <Mm40> 'ello MOnobi
[21:57] <MBisanz> [[User:MBisanz/MESSAGES#BITE Ban]]
[21:57] * Mm40 huggles Monobi
[21:57] <DarkoNeko> n'iway, I like theses templates :) I want the sames :o
[21:58] <DarkoNeko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MBisanz/MESSAGES#Coaching_match_found wikipetan desu !
[21:58] <east718|away> damned /to/ memory? /me suggests MBisanz read the article...
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[21:58] <MBisanz> i had to futz the latin a bit
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[21:59] * MZMcBride stabs MBisanz.
[21:59] <MBisanz> fine i'll fix the grammar
[22:00] * Cream snuggles MZMcBride
[22:00] * Cream snuggles MBisanz
[22:00] * Cream snuggles east718|away
[22:00] * Cream snuggles TenPoundHammer
[22:00] * Cream snuggles Monobi
[22:00] * Cream snuggles Mm40
[22:00] * Cream snuggles DarkoNeko
[22:00] * MZMcBride stares.
[22:00] * Cream snuggles CWii
[22:00] * Mm40 huggles Cream
[22:00] <MBisanz> better east? {{User:MBisanz/PermaBan}}
[22:00] <Monobi> Krimpet, why is your bot here
[22:01] <Cream> who wants another huggle?
[22:01] <TenPoundHammer> Cream: My otters
[22:01] <Mm40> me
[22:01] <CWii> Down with the bot!
[22:01] <Krimpet> Monobi: ferreting out logbots.
[22:01] * Mm40 huggles Cream
[22:01] * Mm40 huggles Cream
[22:01] * Juliancolton feels left out :(
[22:01] <Monobi> Ok
[22:01] <Krimpet> it only talks in -ops. :)
[22:01] <Mm40> g'nite everyone
[22:01] <Not_the_NSA> MBisanz: is destroying Wikipedia a valid means administrators can use so that the user never edits Wikipedia again? O_o
[22:01] <Krimpet> (KrimpBotII != KrimpBot, btw.)
[22:01] * Mm40 huggles Juliancolton
[22:01] * Cream huggles KrimpBotII
[22:01] <Juliancolton> :)
[22:01] * Cream huggles Krimpet
[22:01] * Cream huggles Juliancolton
[22:01] <TenPoundHammer> Cream: what about my otters?
[22:01] <MBisanz> apparently you did not read the documentation for Special:Nuke
[22:01] * Cream huggles TenPoundHammer's otters
[22:02] <TenPoundHammer> there we  go
[22:02] * Mm40 huggles TenPoundHammer's otters
[22:02] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[22:02] <MBisanz> I really ought to embed a clear pixel in that template to make sure I catch anyone substing it real
[22:02] * TenPoundHammer 's otters feel loved
[22:02] <Mm40> TPH, where did the otters come from?
[22:02] <TenPoundHammer> Mm40: Inside joke
[22:02] <Mm40> Wikiotters?
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[22:02] <Mm40> I saw that link on your page
[22:02] * Juliancolton huggles TenPoundHammer's otters and steel their clams when they're not looking
[22:02] <Mm40> heh
[22:02] <TenPoundHammer> Mm40: Actually my otter thing predates [[WP:OTTER]]
[22:02] <Juliancolton> *steals
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[22:03] <TenPoundHammer> Mm40: Barkjon got the idea for [[WP:OTTER]] from me
[22:03] <Mm40> O RLY?
[22:03] <TenPoundHammer> ya rly
[22:03] <DarkoNeko> it's, like 4AM :)
[22:03] <Furry_Fury> FastLizard4|away>    It will have an effect on everyone who visits the page with the timer
[22:03] <Furry_Fury> what effect?
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[22:04] <Furry_Fury> it is a timestamp
[22:04] <FastLizard4|away> Furry_Fury: Wasting server cycles
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[22:04] <TenPoundHammer> ?
[22:05] <Furry_Fury> it only uses a cycle when people cclick the link to refresh it
[22:05] <Furry_Fury> if if they are doing that then its useful
[22:05] <Furry_Fury> which gives it a purpose
[22:06] <Crimedog> Hammer: Before us, was it common to refer to anything Isreal did as "aparthaid"?
[22:06] <Cream> Furry_Fury, are you  a furry?
[22:06] <Furry_Fury> a what?
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[22:07] <MZMcBride> Can someone welcome http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Narayan&action=edit&redlink=1 please?
[22:07] <east718|away> MZMcBride > haven't built a compassion core for MZMcBot yet?
[22:07] <Cream> done
[22:07] <MZMcBride> east718|away: I hate users. No need to make new ones feel welcome. :)
[22:08] <Furry_Fury> so the only reasnon im getiign to not use it is becuase if people like it they will use it...
[22:08] <TenPoundHammer> Cream: 0.o
[22:08] <MZMcBride> But other people seem to enjoy doing it. And it'll fix a broken redirect. So...
[22:08] <east718|away> using semi-automated tools and templates to welcome people seems quite insincere. ^_^
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[22:09] <Furry_Fury> this is absurd...
[22:10] <Crimedog> I still need to get use to tab completion in nicknames. In the old days it was common to truncate long nicks when addressing someone
[22:10] <Furry_Fury> why cant anyone give me a vaid reason why not to do it?
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[22:10] <Crimedog> the old clients didnt highlight your nick when addr4esses
[22:10] <Crimedog> er addressed
[22:11] <MZMcBride> east718|away: Furry_Fury is looking for a reason he shouldn't add countdown timers to articles.
[22:11] <Macy> Cestmoi: /join #wikipedia-sex
[22:11] <TenPoundHammer> Macy: WTF?
[22:11] <Furry_Fury> its is a timestamp...
[22:11] <Macy> O_O , wrong IRC channel
[22:11] <Cestmoi> Macy: WHAT?!
[22:12] <Crimedog> is there also #wikipedia-drugs and #wikipedia-rocknroll?
[22:12] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[22:12] <Wizardman> haha
[22:12] <Macy> Cestmoi is here, no wrong channel :)
[22:12] <Furry_Fury> if you look at the code you would see that..
[22:12] <Furry_Fury> code:
[22:12] <Furry_Fury> {{#time: j "days" G "hours" i "min" s "sec" |17 June 2008  -{{#time:j}} days -{{#time:G}} hours -{{#time:i}} min -{{#time:s}} sec +7 hours}}
[22:13] <MZMcBride> Where did that code come from?
[22:13] <Furry_Fury> there are no expressions
[22:13] <Furry_Fury> i wrote it
[22:13] <MZMcBride> Did you?
[22:13] <Furry_Fury> it displayes the time between todays date the the given date
[22:13] <MZMcBride> I understand how countdown timers work.
[22:13] <east718|away> Furry_Fury > don't you have a bit of COI?
[22:14] <Furry_Fury> that was settled when the gave me a vaild reason...
[22:14] <Furry_Fury> ive been using wiki for what ? 2 weeks?
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[22:15] <Crimedog> Why not have the timer play the theme from mission impossible or final jeopardy
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[22:15] <Crimedog> this article will self destruct in 7 days, good luck Jimbo
[22:15] <quanticle> Crimedog: Are you still using ircII or something?
[22:15] <east718|away> Furry_Fury > well, i have a rather lax interpretation of the conflict of interest policies. but implying that you work for insomniac certainly casts a shadow of doubt. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=216338443
[22:16] <Crimedog> No, chatzilla right now but I cut my teath on ircii and epic
[22:16] <Furry_Fury> i dont work for insominac
[22:16] <Furry_Fury> i work with them
[22:16] <MZMcBride> You still have a conflict of interest.
[22:16] <Furry_Fury> i was chosen to help devloper their new site
[22:16] <MZMcBride> And we don't put countdown timers in articles.
[22:16] <MZMcBride> Do I really need to write that down somewhere?
[22:16] <quanticle> Furry_Fury: Are you affiliated with the subject matter of the article in any way, shape, or form?
[22:17] <east718|away> You should then either follow NPOV to the letter or stay away from all Insomniac articles.
[22:17] <quanticle> Furry_Fury: If you are, then there's COI
[22:17] * east718|away must admit that http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=214502969 gave him a good lol.
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[22:18] <Furry_Fury> and that was setteled
[22:18] <Furry_Fury> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Resistance_2
[22:18] <Crimedog> quanticle: I just havent been using modern windows clients long enough to get use to the new features
[22:18] <quanticle> Furry_Fury: "But going to forums isn't for everyone." <-- If the information is so useful, why don't you create your own wiki on Wikia or something?
[22:18] <east718|away> "If he attempts to remove this article from the talk page however, he *will* have an edit war"
[22:19] <east718|away> okay, fam.
[22:19] <Furry_Fury> the talk page is specifily made to talk about coi
[22:20] * SwirlBoy39 is now known as dysentery
[22:20] <east718|away> well, i respect you for being all open about it
[22:20] <east718|away> the sneaky people are the real problem
[22:20] * Chetblong|away is now known as Chetblong
[22:21] <Furry_Fury> i am perfect willing to have it permanly remove once i get a reason
[22:21] <Crimedog> brb
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[22:21] <Furry_Fury> somone gi ve me a reason why it has a negative effect on the article
[22:22] <TenPoundHammer> ugh, help here
[22:22] <east718|away> well, a countdown timer is just plain silly. it may come as a shock to new people and those that haven't been properly encultured, but we don't really work based on what the arbitrarily designed rules say.
[22:22] <CWii> good night
[22:22] <Gracenotes> it dilutes Wikipedia's reliability in case an event does not occur
[22:22] <Furry_Fury> and why that outweights the benifit of haveing it there
[22:22] <Furry_Fury> its in 8 freaking days...
[22:22] * Cream is now known as Invisible_Cat
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[22:22] <Furry_Fury> im not making this 5 months in advance...
[22:22] <east718|away> Wikipedia's most bitter wars have been fought over less. ;-)
[22:23] * Juliancolton doesn't remember bitter wars
[22:23] <Furry_Fury> unless Armageddon comes i dont see how it can be inaccurate...
[22:24] <Furry_Fury> and im using the date already given in the article
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[22:24] <Furry_Fury> so and none seem to say that is invilad..
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[22:25] <Gracenotes> goodbye ChanServ
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[22:25] <CWii> OH NOES!
[22:26] <Macy> where's ChanServ?
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[22:26] <CWii> wb ChanServ
[22:26] <Krimpet> speak o' the devil.
[22:26] <Wizardman> wb
[22:26] * Juliancolton huggles ChanServ
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[22:26] <Furry_Fury> so can anyone give a a reason that actually applies?
[22:26] <CWii> " ChanServ has kicked On from #wikipedia (Banned: persistent_disruptor_and_troll_over_bans_on_WP__(banned_for_sockpuppetry_and_vandalism)_added_on_5-18-08_by_bum)"
[22:26] <CWii> XD
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[22:27] <Furry_Fury> why is is bad to have countdown...
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[22:28] <east718|away> Crimedog > ...
[22:28] <Gracenotes> Furry_Fury: WP's role as an encyclopedia, perhaps. We are a website, but we're also a database of encyclopedic content. giving content temporal features like that is unnecessary
[22:28] <Furry_Fury> unnecessary...
[22:28] <Furry_Fury> ok..
[22:29] <Gracenotes> also a matter of preferences is involved. if people find it aesthetically displeasing, then their subjective perception of it does matter a bit...
[22:29] <Furry_Fury> now what makes that more unnecessary that the rest of the article..
[22:30] <Furry_Fury> a facts are not opinions...
[22:30] <Gracenotes> well, it's not actually content. it's redundant. another problem might be that for anonymous users, since they would view an old timestamp whenever they visited a page
[22:30] <Furry_Fury> i added a refresh button
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[22:30] <Furry_Fury> they click it... it refreshs
[22:31] <TenPoundHammer> Furry_Fury: Which article?
[22:31] <Gracenotes> how will that work? anonymous users can't purge pages.
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[22:31] <Furry_Fury> Gracenotes>    how will that work? anonymous users can't purge pages.
[22:31] <Gracenotes> except in a POST request, which a simple click won't do
[22:31] <Furry_Fury> there u might have an arugment
[22:32] <Furry_Fury> there is my first actual reason..
[22:32] <Furry_Fury> for non users the refresh button wont work..
[22:32] <Furry_Fury> thus creating inaccurate data
[22:32] <Gracenotes> they could cause the cache to become invalidated with a null edit
[22:32] <Gracenotes> but I'm not sure they're know how to do that...
[22:34] <Furry_Fury> so the pruge wont work unless they have a wiki account
[22:34] <Furry_Fury> that is indeed a problem..
[22:34] <Monobi> PURGE :-O
[22:35] <Furry_Fury> so i cant type... big whoop...
Session Close: Sun Jun 08 22:35:21 2008

Session Start: Mon Jun 09 17:14:24 2008
Session Ident: #Wikipedia-en
[17:14] * Now talking in #Wikipedia-en
[17:14] * Topic is 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Status: Up | Please observe [[m:IRC guidelines]] | To get op attention, join #wikimedia-ops or type !op followed by your request. | For an admin *in an emergency*, type !admin before a request. | No public logging. | SUL now enabled for all users! Info at [[Special:MergeAccount]] | Board elections are now open.  See [[Special:BoardVote]] to vote. '
[17:14] * Set by NotASpy on Fri Jun 06 21:29:46
[17:14] <CWii> hi gfngr
[17:14] <gfngr> Why does wikipedia not have an article for every pokemon
[17:14] <gfngr> ?
[17:14] <CWii> hey lucasbfr
[17:14] <Nowknownas> Fancruft
[17:14] <CWii> gfngr, notability
[17:14] <ffm> gfngr: Because they arn't [[WP:NOTE]].
[17:14] <CWii> hi gfngr
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[17:14] <ffm> gfngr: See also [[WP:POKE]].
[17:14] <gfngr> HI CWoo
[17:14] * lulz is now known as lol
[17:15] <CWii> lol meant lol
[17:15] <Tinkleheimer> *waits*
[17:15] <lol> oh hai CWii
[17:15] <lol> oh hai Nowknownas
[17:15] <lol> oh hai NotASpy
[17:15] * ffm thinks we need a [[WP:BCOACH]]
[17:15] <MBisanz> Tinkleheimer I'd like to see you beat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doczilla/RfAThanks
[17:15] <Nowknownas> Hey lol
[17:15] <NotASpy> lol Hey
[17:15] <gfngr> I know but you have articles for everythig else that is even less notable.
[17:15] <CWii> gfngr, like?
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[17:16] <gfngr> Uh Gamers
[17:16] <MBisanz> ffn I proposed that
[17:16] <gfngr> wtf
[17:16] <MBisanz> but sadly it was not taken up
[17:16] <Tinkleheimer> Haha that is kind of awesome
[17:16] <MBisanz> WP:BOR was however
[17:16] <CWii> gfngr, they could be notable
[17:16] * lol is now known as Cream
[17:17] <ffm> gfngr: That's waht we call the pokemon test.
[17:17] <ffm> gfngr: Also [[WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS]]
[17:17] <gfngr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cavanaugh_%28electronic_sports_player%29
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[17:17] * Cream reads unclassified canadian reports
[17:17] <gfngr> WTF
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[17:17] <ffm> gfngr: Again, WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS
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[17:17] <CWii> gfngr, lok aguring here isn't getting you anything
[17:17] <tombom> Wow, the whole system of RfA is now ruined. Great job Dlohcierekim. Great job. Beam 20:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
[17:17] <tombom> hahaha
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[17:18] <CWii> stop while you're ahead
[17:18] <ffm> gfngr: [[WP:NOTE]] requires that it be mentioned in another source.
[17:18] <Nowknownas> gfngr: Please stop with the wtfing
[17:18] <CWii> look not lok*
[17:18] <ffm> gfngr: NOTE is not inherited.
[17:18] <tombom> beam is really kind of amazing in his rather unusual standards
[17:18] <Cream> Findally
[17:18] <Cream> a iPhone with GPS
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[17:19] <gfngr> Its kind of a double standard who deciedes whats notable and whats not?
[17:19] <CWii> Cream, oh the new iphones are here?
[17:19] <ffm> gfngr: Not really.
[17:19] <Nowknownas> Cream: my setup is still cheaper lol (A sony ericcson k800i and a map)
[17:19] <CWii> gfngr, not who. WE
[17:19] <Cream> heh
[17:19] <ffm> gfngr: But arguing about it on IRC won't help.
[17:19] <ffm> gfngr: If you can gather a [[WP:CONSENSUS]], you can change that.
[17:19] <CWii> agian. stop while you're ahead
[17:20] <gfngr> OK ill go do that
[17:20] <Nowknownas> I would listen to CWii
[17:20] <ffm> gfngr: Again, unlikely to happen.
[17:20] <Monobi> O_O
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[17:20] <gfngr> Any one what to join me in a crusade to get every pokemon its own article?
[17:20] <Nowknownas> !op
[17:20] <MZMcBride> Yes?
[17:20] <CWii> gfngr, no.
[17:20] <Monobi> gfngr, haha
[17:20] <Scetoaux> no, gfngr
[17:20] <Nowknownas> sorry
[17:20] <Nowknownas> my bad
[17:21] <WBOSITG> LOL`, wtf is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doom_%28video_game%29&diff=218248604&oldid=218112091 all about?
[17:21] <Cream> hmm
[17:21] <gfngr> Join Me and will will make this dream a reality
[17:21] <Cream> a cyberattack
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[17:21] <Cream> LOL`, want the nick lol?
[17:21] <CWii> gfngr, stop. no more.
[17:21] <tombom> # A degenerate form of I'm sorry, as in my bad. Intended to give the impression that the user is cool, hip and fully up-to-date with the latest WikiSlang. In reality it indicates that the user is probably still in school and struggling with basic English grammar. Or American.
[17:21] <Nowknownas> Please stop canvassing on IRC
[17:21] <ffm> gfngr: Sadly, noone caresa bout pokemon.
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[17:21] <Monobi> Nowknownas, who's canvassing
[17:21] <WBOSITG> What?
[17:21] <ffm> Monobi: " Any one what to join me in a crusade to get every pokemon its own article?
[17:21] <WBOSITG> He was joking, surely
[17:22] <ffm> WBOSITG: hrm?
[17:22] <Monobi> So
[17:22] <Monobi> that's not canvassing
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[17:22] <ffm> Monobi: Kinda sorta yeah.
[17:22] <WBOSITG> How is that canvassing
[17:22] <Scetoaux> gfngr, from the past two minutes of this conversation, it appears that your intent towards making a separate article for each pokemon is with the intent to edit wikipedia to make a point
[17:22] <Monobi> He wants to write pokemon articles
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[17:22] <WBOSITG> Scetoaux, OMG HAI
[17:22] <Cream> oh hai WBOSITG
[17:22] <Monobi> WHAT IS WITH THE LYNCH MOB
[17:22] <Cream> ho wants cuddles?
[17:22] <Scetoaux> hey guy with the really long name :p
[17:22] <Scetoaux> WBOSITG
[17:22] <tombom> Scetoaux: where on earth did you get that idea
[17:22] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:22] <WBOSITG> Anyway, there's no vote or anything
[17:22] <gfngr> So do I go make like a petion?
[17:22] * Nowknownas want;s a cuddle
[17:22] <Scetoaux> lol
[17:22] <CWii> gfngr, sigh
[17:22] <WBOSITG> Scetoaux, 7 letters!?
[17:22] <CWii> no.
[17:23] <ffm> gfngr: hat's exactly what you _dont_ do.
[17:23] <Malinaccier> Has anyone heard of the Around the World Competition?
[17:23] <SteveCrossin> MALINACCIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:23] <tombom> Scetoaux: pretend there's a c
[17:23] <SteveCrossin> :p
[17:23] <Malinaccier> SteveCrossin: :D Steve!
[17:23] <tombom> all caps blue linked WP:AGF here
[17:23] <Scetoaux> We buried our secrets in the garden
[17:23] <LOL`> WBOSITG: Not much about it.  I was just wondering which policies would back me up on reverting Xihr and using [sic]
[17:23] <SteveCrossin> :D
[17:23] <ffm> gfngr: We're not a democracy, but a clueocracy.
[17:23] <WBOSITG> Cream, bonjour!  :D
[17:23] <Scetoaux> eh, I think that's pretty long
[17:23] <Scetoaux> :p
[17:23] <WBOSITG> LOL`, You're right
[17:23] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: just type WBOSSSSSSSS
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[17:23] <Scetoaux> tombom, what idea?
[17:23] <Scetoaux> lol Malinaccier
[17:23] <ffm> gfngr: Make a good argument, and put it on the apropreate page.
[17:23] <WBOSITG> That's why [[Tom Cruise|Tom Cruse
[17:23] <Scetoaux> Yes, absolutely.
[17:23] <WBOSITG> ]]
[17:24] <gfngr> Ok
[17:24] * Cream cuddles CWii
[17:24] * Cream cuddles SteveCrossin
[17:24] * Cream cuddles Malinaccier
[17:24] * Cream cuddles tombom
[17:24] * Cream cuddles Scetoaux
[17:24] * Cream cuddles Sceptre
[17:24] * Cream cuddles ffm
[17:24] * Cream cuddles Monobi
[17:24] * Cream cuddles Nowknownas
[17:24] * Cream cuddles WBOSITG
[17:24] <ffm> Malinaccier: I'm prefrental to "Wee-bo".
[17:24] <gfngr> Im making a page now
[17:24] <WBOSITG> and not just [[Tom Cruise]]
[17:24] <Scetoaux> Put it on the Bureaucrats' Noticeboard.
[17:24] <SteveCrossin> you are WBSTIG
[17:24] * ffm anticuddles Cream.
[17:24] <Scetoaux> You'll definitely get noticed.
[17:24] <WBOSITG> :P
[17:24] <Malinaccier> ffm: lol
[17:24] <ffm> Scetoaux: [[WP:BEANS]].
[17:24] <SteveCrossin> WOBSTUG
[17:24] <Malinaccier> ffm: WBOStIG is pretty good too
[17:24] * WBOSITG slaps Cream for flooding :P
[17:24] * CWii hugs CWii
[17:24] <CWii> oh wait..
[17:24] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[17:24] * Malinaccier cuddles Cream
[17:24] <Cream> I love being slapped
[17:24] <Scetoaux> hmm
[17:24] * TenPoundHammer trouts Cream
[17:24] <WBOSITG> .9
[17:24] <Scetoaux> good point ffm
[17:24] <tombom> gfngr, from the past two minutes of this conversation, it appears that your intent towards making a separate article for each pokemon is with the intent to edit wikipedia to make a point < this idea
[17:24] <WBOSITG> 9.9
[17:25] <Cream> see
[17:25] <Scetoaux> But I was being sarcastic
[17:25] <TenPoundHammer> lol
[17:25] * CWii bitch slaps Cream
[17:25] <Cream> no automated reply :P
[17:25] * ffm was about to shout !_OPERS_HELP_THERES_A_SCARY_TROLL
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[17:25] <Scetoaux> Me?
[17:25] <aitias> good night.
[17:25] <Scetoaux> A scary troll?
[17:25] <tombom> oh i see
[17:25] <tombom> haha
[17:25] <WBOSITG> bye aitias
[17:25] * Nowknownas takes off the scary mask
[17:25] <tombom> :(
[17:25] <ffm> Scetoaux: no, Cream .
[17:25] <Scetoaux> :p
[17:25] <CWii> Nowknownas, heh :)
[17:25] <ffm> and I ment another word, which  I cannot remember.
[17:25] <aitias> byebye WBOSITG :)
[17:26] <ffm> uh... user with lack of clue?
[17:26] <WBOSITG> :)
[17:26] <WBOSITG> By the way
[17:26] <Scetoaux> Actually, I meant I was being sarcastic about the Bureaucrats' Noticeboard remark
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[17:26] <WBOSITG> in RfAs
[17:26] <CWii> gfngr, what your wiki username
[17:26] <Scetoaux> I was simply quick to judge about hte remark on gfngr
[17:26] <WBOSITG> Why do people go "Support: has [[WP:CLUE]]"
[17:26] <tombom> dunno
[17:26] * Nowknownas believes CWii can read his mind and pick out thoughts
[17:26] <WBOSITG> WP:CLUE redirs to Wikipedia is not a democracy...
[17:26] <tombom> meme
[17:26] <Scetoaux> Something to say I guess
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[17:26] <Scetoaux> I mean
[17:26] <gfngr> KingsOfHearts
[17:27] <WBOSITG> wb MALINNNNNNNNNNNNN
[17:27] <Scetoaux> It appears to be common practice that a user doesn't have to rationalize a support !vote
[17:27] * SteveCrossin eats WP:CLUE
[17:27] * SteveCrossin eats the english wikipedia
[17:27] <Malinaccier> Thank you WBOSSSSSSSSSS
[17:27] * TenPoundHammer eats trout
[17:27] * SteveCrossin is now very knowledgable :p
[17:27] <CWii> it should be [[WP:CLUEFUL]]
[17:27] <Scetoaux> I honestly don't recall where I've interacted with WBOSITG before
[17:27] <Scetoaux> I'll have to do a search
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[17:28] <Scetoaux> It might have been my RFA tho
[17:28] <Monobi> We need to set up an anarcho-capitalist system for dealing with users in channels
[17:28] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: he never commented
[17:28] <Monobi> That involves oping everyone
[17:28] * Nowknownas eats the french wikipedia, beat that SteveCrossin!
[17:28] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: He's one of my past coachees.......
[17:28] <Cream> someone RFA me
[17:28] <Cream> :P
[17:28] <CWii> Monobi, everyone would ban each other
[17:28] * Malinaccier shoves Nowknownas down SteveCrossin's throat
[17:28] <CWii> it would be pretty lonely after that
[17:28] <WBOSITG> Scetoaux, I was all over the place
[17:28] <Scetoaux> ah, ok
[17:28] <Scetoaux> yeah
[17:29] <Monobi> CWii, of course not, naturally the channel would demand bots that would deal with things of that nature
[17:29] <WBOSITG> But am now not
[17:29] * Nowknownas steals the english wikipedia from steve's stomach
[17:29] * SteveCrossin eats the entire wikimedia foundation and all related websites
[17:29] <SteveCrossin> XD
[17:29] <Scetoaux> lol, Kurt's comment on my RFA scared me, frankly
[17:29] * Nowknownas eats Jimbo Wales
[17:29] * SteveCrossin eats wikia too
[17:29] <Scetoaux> it wasn't the self nomination one, since I wasn't
[17:29] <CWii> Monobi, oh, I see were this is going 9.9
[17:29] <Malinaccier> The politician one?
[17:29] <Scetoaux> yeah
[17:29] <Malinaccier> meh...
[17:29] <WBOSITG> Scetoaux, his "admin coached" thing?
[17:29] <Monobi> Scetoaux, link
[17:29] <gfngr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KingsOfHearts
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[17:29] <Scetoaux> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Scetoaux_2
[17:29] * CWii eats brion
[17:29] <Malinaccier> WBOSITG: he said "politician candidate"
[17:29] <WBOSITG> O.o
[17:29] <WBOSITG> wtf?
[17:30] <gfngr> Sign my petion if you agree with me!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KingsOfHearts
[17:30] <Scetoaux> I guess I might have been, I don't know
[17:30] <WBOSITG> zOMG, Scetoaux is Boris Johnson
[17:30] <CWii> gfngr, NO PETTION
[17:30] <Malinaccier> WBOSITG: it means he did nearly all editing for RFA (which he didn't)
[17:30] <CWii> sry for caps
[17:30] * guillom|away (n=guillom@wikimedia/guillom) Quit ("<cary> So where is this foundation-l thread where people are editing my job?" )
[17:30] <gfngr> ITS A SURVEY
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[17:31] <WBOSITG> gfngr, please to remove your survey
[17:31] <gfngr> Y
[17:31] <gfngr> ?
[17:31] <Scetoaux> please to depress your capslock
[17:31] <Scetoaux> gfngr, that is
[17:31] <WBOSITG> Because there was an MfD?
[17:31] <CWii> gfngr, cuz the admins says so.
[17:31] <gfngr> ?
[17:31] <WBOSITG> And it was decided on?
[17:31] <ffm> WBOSITG: It means [[Clueful]]-ness.
[17:31] <WBOSITG> Oh.
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[17:31] <WBOSITG> Ok, then...
[17:31] <CWii> hey Scarian
[17:31] <Scetoaux> Ah well
[17:31] <Scetoaux> I'm still pulling
[17:31] * CWii is actually compwhizii ;-)
[17:31] <Scarian> CWii: Hey little man.
[17:31] <ffm> gfngr: Feel free to take it to [[WP:DR]] if it hasn't.
[17:31] * Rjd|away is now known as Rjd0060
[17:32] <WBOSITG> o hai Scarian and Smythe
[17:32] <Scetoaux> end of August
[17:32] <WBOSITG> CWii, not anymair
[17:32] <Scarian> Hey WBOSITGGGGG
[17:32] <Smythe> WBOSITG, HU R U!??!?!
[17:32] <CWii> WBOSITG, omg.
[17:32] <Malinaccier> Scarian: call him WBOSSSSSSS
[17:32] * ffm likes his client's way of doing <caps></caps>
[17:32] <Tinkleheimer> Whee done with all the thanking!
[17:32] <Nowknownas> kl
[17:32] <ffm> WEEBOO!!!!
[17:32] <Scarian> Malinaccier: He ain't no boss o' me.
[17:32] * Tinkleheimer feels sorry for Giggy
[17:32] <Scetoaux> lol, wut?
[17:32] <gfngr> Why cant i have a petion?
[17:32] <ffm> gfngr: Because we arn't a democracy.
[17:32] <Scetoaux> Because it implies that Wikipedia si a democracy
[17:32] <WBOSITG> Canvassing on IRC maybe
[17:32] <Sfan00> Because the 'community' has ru;ed
[17:32] <gfngr> commies
[17:33] <Sfan00> LOL
[17:33] <Sfan00> ROLF
[17:33] <Scetoaux> LULZ
[17:33] <Scetoaux> sorry
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[17:33] <Scetoaux> that wasn't nice of me
[17:33] <ffm> gfngr: lol..
[17:33] <WBOSITG> Smythe, We Buried Our Secrets In The Garden
[17:33] <Scarian> gfngr: Complete opposite buddy.
[17:33] <ffm> gfngr: We're based on [[WP:CLUE]].
[17:33] <CWii> gfngr, remove it or I will
[17:33] <ffm> gfngr: Communism is an economic system.
[17:33] <Cream> let's all raid #Uncyclopedia
[17:33] <gfngr> LOL
[17:33] <WBOSITG> Tinkleheimer, I 100% agree
[17:33] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:33] <Malinaccier> Cream: I'll come :p
[17:33] <WBOSITG> but giggy's a big boy now.
[17:33] <gfngr> I will
[17:33] <CWii> gfngr, you have 1 minute...starting now
[17:33] <Tinkleheimer> Yeah
[17:34] <Malinaccier> Everyone /join #uncyclopedia
[17:34] <Sfan00> gfngr: Seriosuly , you don't want to upset people her
[17:34] <Sfan00> *here
[17:34] <Scetoaux> Just watching :p
[17:34] <gfngr> OMFG
[17:34] <Nowknownas> ZOMG DRAMAZ!
[17:34] <Sfan00> Some people on here can go from  Jekyll to Hyde in seconds
[17:34] <gfngr> Why cant I have it
[17:34] <Sfan00> It's not a pretty picture
[17:35] <gfngr> I bet a million people would sign it.
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[17:35] <Monobi> gfngr, yes, you're correct, wikipedia is communism
[17:35] <Scetoaux> Yes
[17:35] <Sfan00> For whatever reason pokecruft isn't notable :)
[17:35] * Shanel (n=Shanel@wikimedia/Shanel) Quit (Nick collision from services. )
[17:35] <Scetoaux> Because Wikipedia redistributes its income to all its users evenly
[17:35] <Scetoaux> Obviously.
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[17:35] <Nowknownas> gfngr, quit while you are ahead
[17:35] <Sfan00> You want a Pokemon wiki - try wikia
[17:36] <ffm> gfngr: Because we arn't a democracy.
[17:36] <Scetoaux> I'm pretty certain there already is a Pokemon wiki
[17:36] <gfngr> No I want to Increase the span of wikipedia
[17:36] * masterpersona is now known as Shanel
[17:36] <Sfan00> Nowknownas: He could also try quiting whilst he still has the body of his argument ;)
[17:36] <Malinaccier> lol ffm
[17:36] <Scetoaux> erm, guys, question
[17:36] <Sfan00> gfngr:LOL
[17:36] <ffm> gfngr: span? wrong word, IIRC.
[17:36] <Nowknownas> Removed
[17:36] <Scetoaux> How does raiding uncyclopedia and proclaiming proudly that you're Wikipedians spread a positive image of the online encyclopedia?
[17:36] <ffm> gfngr: For a dictonary, see wikitionary.
[17:36] <Monobi> Scetoaux, no, because everyone is treated as a supposed equal while a small group of bureaucratic users run the system
[17:37] <Monobi> Scetoaux, it has nothing to do with licensing
[17:37] <Scetoaux> Monobi: I was joking in that case as well
[17:37] <CWii> lol
[17:37] <Monobi> Back to games
[17:37] <Malinaccier> That was fun, lol
[17:37] <Scarian> That was crap!
[17:37] <MBisanz> Monobi, what is your opinion on the Global Sysop proposal
[17:37] <WBOSITG> lol
[17:37] <MBisanz> and the en.wiki policy in response to it
[17:37] <Scarian> Us Wikipedian's don't fair well against people that l33t speak :-/
[17:37] <Monobi> MBisanz, I think it is a wonderful idea
[17:37] * Cream is watching trough a sockpuppet
[17:37] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:37] <Monobi> MBisanz, and, I haven't seen en.wiki policy regrading it
[17:38] <CWii> WBOSITG, lol
[17:38] <Monobi> Just the ideas on meta
[17:38] <gfngr> Wikipedia will never be 100% accurate so why not incorperate topics that are somewhat notable.
[17:38] <Scetoaux> What global sysop proposal?
[17:38] <Scarian> Cream: Were you even in Uncyclopedia?!
[17:38] <WBOSITG> gfngr, you are hereby shot
[17:38] <WBOSITG> :P
[17:38] <Monobi> *regarding
[17:38] <MBisanz> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Anti-vandal_fighter
[17:38] * Rjd0060 can'
[17:38] <WBOSITG> Scarian, you got banned.
[17:38] <WBOSITG> HAHA
[17:38] <Scetoaux> gfngr: No, because there is no indication that any individual pokemon, except possibly pikachu, is notable in itself
[17:38] <WBOSITG> :P
[17:38] <Cream> Scarian, yup
[17:38] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:38] <MBisanz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Global_rights_usage mostly written by me and danielB
[17:38] <Scarian> I wrote "LULZ".
[17:38] <Malinaccier> I left before I got banned
[17:38] * Rjd0060 can't wait to oppose the global rights proposal *
[17:38] <Scarian> Bastards.
[17:38] <gfngr> Um ya there is
[17:38] <WBOSITG> Scarian, CWii was only kicked
[17:39] <Scarian> CWii: You ass.
[17:39] <WBOSITG> and the other troll was only kicked
[17:39] <Scetoaux> oh
[17:39] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:39] <Scarian> Why'd I get banned?
[17:39] <Nowknownas> gfngr, please give it up, drop it, set it on fire, then forget about it, it is not going to happen.
[17:39] <Scarian> Actually...
[17:39] <Scetoaux> so it's not like that proposal where adminship would be awarded like rollback
[17:39] <Scarian> Why do I even care?
[17:39] <Malinaccier> Cuz you probably blocked whoever banned you, Scarian
[17:39] <WBOSITG> but you were BANNINatied/
[17:39] <WBOSITG> :P
[17:39] <WBOSITG> Meh, Scarian ftw
[17:39] <WBOSITG> :)
[17:39] <gfngr> Thats what people probably said to goerge washington.
[17:39] <Scetoaux> "I want to be an administrator" "Uh, OK." "Oops I deleted the main page and locked the servers for 45 minutes"
[17:39] <gfngr> and licon
[17:39] * Scarian cuddles Malinaccier and WBOSITG.
[17:39] <Nowknownas> Ooooh, one foot in the grave is on!
[17:39] * WBOSITG toasts to Scarian's bravery
[17:40] <Malinaccier> in another few days we should raid them again
[17:40] * Scarian stands on the podium and cradles the Word.doc that holds the text that says he was banned.
[17:40] <Scetoaux> "Oh crap, we can't desysop you without the Arbitration Committee!"
[17:40] * ffm (n=firefoxm@unaffiliated/ffm) Quit ("leaving" )
[17:40] * WBOSITG pours water on Scetoaux
[17:40] <gfngr> But he fought on and accomplished great things.
[17:40] <CWii> shall we do another
[17:40] <Scarian> What was gfngr's proposal?
[17:40] * CWii isn't banned
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[17:40] <WBOSITG> No, not know
[17:40] <Scarian> CWii: You can do it on your own then. A couple got banned.
[17:40] <Scetoaux> Scarian: Make a wikipedia page for each pokemon
[17:40] <WBOSITG> You'd be instabanned.
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[17:41] <Scarian> Scetoaux: I'd delete every single one.
[17:41] <Scetoaux> But... what?
[17:41] <WBOSITG> lol.
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[17:41] <CWii> I'm idling in the channel now lol
[17:41] <Malinaccier> WBOSITG: why didn't you get kicked/banned?
[17:41] <WBOSITG> That's democracy for yah.
[17:41] <CWii> I even pulled this:
[17:41] <Nowknownas> could you imagin the list of "confirmed sockpuppets"? lol
[17:41] <WBOSITG> Malinaccier, because I rock.
[17:41] <Scetoaux> How do you possibly compare making wikipedia pages on Pokemon to George Washingtonian legacy?
[17:41] <Malinaccier> WBOSITG: you were spamming AAAAA
[17:41] <WBOSITG> :O
[17:41] <CWii>  CWii spanks Mordillo's girl
[17:41] <WBOSITG> Look at uncyclopedia's AAAAA! page
[17:41] <Scarian> You shouldn't been banned for that.
[17:41] <Nowknownas> I am //tired//
[17:41] <Scarian> *should've
[17:42] <Scetoaux> What is AAAAA?
[17:42] <Scetoaux> anyway"
[17:42] <WBOSITG> Look at uncyclopedia's AAAAA! page
[17:42] <CWii> I should of been banned :D
[17:42] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:42] <WBOSITG> oh I'll get a link.
[17:42] <Scarian> CWii: * should have
[17:42] <Scarian> Kids do that all the time.
[17:42] <Scarian> It's "should have" not "should of".
[17:42] <Scarian> ;)
[17:42] <Rjd0060> He shoulda' :P
[17:42] <CWii> :)
[17:43] <Scarian> Rjd0060: Easy on the racism...
[17:43] <Scarian> :-O
[17:43] <Rjd0060> :O
[17:43] * Tinkleheimer waits for link
[17:43] <WBOSITG> LOL
[17:43] <WBOSITG> For some genuine bigotry, the wikifiddlers at Freakypedia have written a propaganda the official version of A. Jesus wept!
[17:43] <Rjd0060> Just go to uncyclopedia and get it yourself :P
[17:43] <gfngr> Spam this link http://www.walmart.com/
[17:44] <Scarian> gfngr: Yeah definitely!
[17:44] <gfngr> It drives them bat shit
[17:44] * Scarian coughs.
[17:44] <Malinaccier> Cream: did you get banned too?
[17:44] <WBOSITG> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAA%21
[17:44] <WBOSITG> there.
[17:44] <Cream> Malinaccier, not yet :P
[17:44] * Tinkleheimer (n=Tinklehe@c-98-222-1-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Client Quit )
[17:44] <Malinaccier> Shoot
[17:44] <Malinaccier> I got banned :(
[17:44] <WBOSITG> lulz
[17:44] <WBOSITG> did you all go back?
[17:44] <WBOSITG> WHY?!
[17:44] <Malinaccier> lol
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[17:44] <Nowknownas> WOW
[17:44] <Malinaccier> for fun
[17:44] <WBOSITG> :(
[17:44] <Nowknownas> BSoAAAAAAAA
[17:44] <WBOSITG> You all faill
[17:44] <Scetoaux> allegations of allegations of apartheid apartheid?
[17:45] * Cream is gonna make public logs
[17:45] <CWii> gfngr, sigh...now you're a spammer eh?
[17:45] * Scarian pours Cream into his cup.
[17:45] <Scetoaux> OH
[17:45] * Sfan00 considers a banning on Cream
[17:45] <Scarian> Cream: Please tell me that one hasn't been done before.
[17:45] <Scetoaux> The one on Uncyclopedia makes better sense, sorry guys
[17:45] <gfngr> lol it uncycloepdia
[17:45] <CWii> ah
[17:45] <ffm> WBOSITG: I thought you were on wikibreak... *winks*
[17:45] <WBOSITG> http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/4/40/Startrek-BSoD.gif
[17:45] <WBOSITG> LOL ^^
[17:46] <Monobi> WBOSITG, poke >_>
[17:46] <Monobi> WBOSITG, incoming PM
[17:46] <WBOSITG> okz
[17:46] SpamTunes stopped.
[17:46] <ffm> WBOSITG: super-anti-poke.
[17:46] <Scarian> WBOSITG: Is that the same guy who hits the screen? I thought androids were incapable of feeling human emotion. What are your subsequent thoughts upon seeing the images?
[17:47] <Tinkleheimer> Hi again. Erm
[17:47] <gfngr> This is my finial Question. If someone wants to write an article on something  semi notable and includes good sources what is the problem/
[17:47] <Scarian> gfnger: Semi-notable?
[17:47] * Nowknownas can't figure out why he created his own channel
[17:47] <WBOSITG> Scarian, errr, yes.
[17:47] <Scarian> gfnger: Put [[WP:NOTABLE]] into your search bar on Wikipedia and read that.
[17:48] <Majorly> who pinged me
[17:48] <ffm> gfngr: If it meets [[WP:NOTE]] and is [[WP:V]], then...
[17:48] <ffm> Otherwise...
[17:48] <gfngr> Pokemon?
[17:48] <Nowknownas> ^^^Without the brackets^^^
[17:48] <ffm> gfngr: Notibility is not inheritived.
[17:48] <Scarian> ffm: You gotta make it more simple. I think he's new...
[17:48] * Scarian giggles.
[17:48] <gfngr> No im not check my contribuation
[17:48] <gfngr> i got 500 edits
[17:48] <gfngr> and wrote 2 articles
[17:48] <Scarian> Some people have 100,000+
[17:49] <Scetoaux> POKEMANS
[17:49] <gfngr> so they bots
[17:49] <Scarian> gfngr: Nej, humans with 175,000+ edits.
[17:49] <Scarian> gfngr: Is English your native language, btw?
[17:49] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:49] <gfngr> ya
[17:49] <ffm> gfngr: Yet you don't seem familar with WP policy.
[17:49] * Malinaccier wants to go rogue
[17:49] <ffm> Malinaccier: go rouge, its better.
[17:49] <CWii> gfngr, i have 17,700+
[17:49] <Scetoaux> You should
[17:49] <Scetoaux> That would look real great for my next RFA
[17:49] <Scetoaux> :p
[17:49] <Malinaccier> I wanna close an AFD that's been open one day
[17:49] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:50] <Scarian> Malinaccier: Go Rogue on whom?
[17:50] <Scarian> Ah.
[17:50] <Scetoaux> nah
[17:50] <CWii> Scarian, in gneralo silly
[17:50] <WBOSITG> Malinaccier, 1 minute.
[17:50] <WBOSITG> GO}
[17:50] <CWii> ah, can
[17:50] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:50] <WBOSITG> one on the Main page
[17:50] * Scarian nods at CWii.
[17:50] <CWii> 't spell or ype for that matter
[17:50] <Scetoaux> close an RFA as passing in one day and claim you're practicing for your inevitable Bureaucratship
[17:50] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid_%288th_nomination%29
[17:50] <Scetoaux> :p
[17:50] <WBOSITG> {{subst:at|delete}} non admin closure ~~~~
[17:50] <Malinaccier> lol
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[17:51] <Scetoaux> holy crap
[17:51] <Malinaccier> {{subst:at|delete}} '''Delete per IRC''' ~~~~
[17:51] <Scetoaux> lol, that would look real great too. :p
[17:51] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: yep
[17:51] <Malinaccier> lol
[17:51] <gfngr> what is RFA stand for
[17:51] <Malinaccier> I soooooooo wanna close it
[17:51] <Scetoaux> Requests for Adminship
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[17:51] <gfngr> and how many edits do I need to be an admin?
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[17:51] <Scetoaux> I feel safe now that the NSA has proclaimed their non-presence.
[17:52] <Malinaccier> gfngr: 5,000 to be safe
[17:52] <ffm> gfngr: You need policy understanding.
[17:52] <Malinaccier> gfngr: 6 months experience
[17:52] <ffm> gfngr: >2000 is typical.
[17:52] <Scetoaux> You need to have a [[WP:CLUE]]
[17:52] <Cream> hmm
[17:52] <ffm> Scetoaux: no, wrong WP:SHORT.
[17:52] <gfngr> Ok so if I get 5000 edits i be come admin?
[17:52] <Cream> a Cyberattack towards CAnada
[17:52] <Malinaccier> TenPoundHammer: Ping
[17:52] <Malinaccier> gfngr: not necessarily
[17:52] <TenPoundHammer> squeak?
[17:52] <Golbez> gfngr- it depends on if people vote for you
[17:52] <TenPoundHammer> Malinaccier: I'm here
[17:52] <ffm> gfngr: no.
[17:52] <ffm> Golbez: !vote.
[17:52] <gfngr> I can get people to vote im precsucive
[17:53] <Malinaccier> I wanna close an AFD, but I'm unsure if I'll get yelled at, Ten Pound Hammer
[17:53] <ffm> gfngr: I don't think you get it.
[17:53] <Golbez> ffm- whateva. =p
[17:53] <Malinaccier> TenTenPoundHammer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid_%288th_nomination%29
[17:53] <gfngr> wut AFD
[17:53] <Scetoaux> when I first looked at the url
[17:53] <ffm> gfngr: See [[WP:AFD]]
[17:53] <Malinaccier> gfngr: Articles for Deletion
[17:53] <Golbez> gfngr- tip #1: if you can't spell persuasive, you can't be an admin
[17:53] <Scetoaux> I didn't realize the %28 was supposed to be /
[17:53] <Golbez> tip #2: if you don't know what RFA or AFD mean, you can't be an admin.
[17:53] <Malinaccier> gfngr: look at WP:WTF
[17:53] <Scetoaux> so I thought it was the 288th deletion nomination of the Allegations of Israeli apartheid article
[17:53] <TenPoundHammer> Malinaccier: Yes, I know
[17:53] <Nowknownas> It's not about hwo many edits you have, it's wether you are trusted, wether you show that you have a basic knowladge of policies, how much you contribute to things like wp:ani
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[17:54] <Nowknownas> how you react to difficult situations
[17:54] <Malinaccier> TenPoundHammer: Should I?
[17:54] <ffm> gfngr: see [[WP:GRFA]]
[17:54] <Golbez> so, who's going to wikimania?
[17:54] <Scetoaux> And I thought "Jesus, talk about a dispute"
[17:54] <TenPoundHammer> Malinaccier: Close it
[17:54] * Malinaccier is nervous
[17:54] <Monobi> Golbez, not I
[17:54] <Scarian> Malinaccier: Link moi.
[17:55] <Scetoaux> I am witness to the consulation with TPH
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[17:55] <Scetoaux> :D
[17:55] <Malinaccier> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid_%288th_nomination%29 Scarian
[17:55] <Malinaccier> Scarian: I would /love/ to close it
[17:55] <Golbez> I would be if it were in Atlanta. =p I just spent way too much money on a trip to Chicago, so Alexandria is a little out of my league. (Also, I strongly disagree with the selection process, ranking safety and 'novelty' equally)
[17:55] <ffm> doitdoitdoitdoit!!!!
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[17:55] <ffm> (don't , really)
[17:55] <Scetoaux> Wasn't an anonymous user nominated for adminship once?
[17:55] <Scarian> Malinaccier: On !votes it's clearly a keep.
[17:55] <Malinaccier> Scarian: yeah
[17:56] <Scetoaux> I don't recall the page, but this was like the most active non-admin contributor
[17:56] <Scarian> Malinaccier: I'd support a close.
[17:56] <Scetoaux> the IP was extraordinarily static
[17:56] <Malinaccier> Scarian: so go ahead?
[17:56] <Scarian> Malinaccier: Ja but don't mention anything about an IRC consensus.
[17:56] <Scarian> ;)
[17:56] <Malinaccier> lol
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[17:56] <Golbez> "everybody realized that if you gave him an enema he would fit in a matchbox" That's brilliant prose.
[17:56] * Howcheng|away is now known as Howcheng
[17:56] <MBisanz> Scarian that IP is still active
[17:56] <Scetoaux> What are you closing it as?
[17:56] <MBisanz> 22,000 edits
[17:56] <WBOSITG> Don't Mention the war
[17:56] <Malinaccier> Keep
[17:56] <Nowknownas> gfngr, posting petitions on your page is not helping your cause, also, it's worth noting that many people here are admins (apart from me)
[17:56] <Scarian> MBisanz: The genre troll one?
[17:56] <WBOSITG> Malinaccier, don't close.
[17:57] <WBOSITG> Please
[17:57] <MBisanz> no, the IP nommed for adminship
[17:57] <WBOSITG> There are somw deletes there.
[17:57] <Scarian> MBisanz: It wasn't me who asked :S
[17:57] <ffm> MBisanz: Can  a static IP be nommed for adminship?
[17:57] <WBOSITG> You'd probably end up on ANI
[17:57] <Malinaccier> WBOSITG: hmm
[17:57] <Malinaccier> maybe
[17:57] <MBisanz> ffm yes
[17:57] <Malinaccier> idk...that's why I asked here first
[17:57] <Scetoaux> ffm: No, actually
[17:57] <Scetoaux> I guess in theory
[17:57] <WBOSITG> Well, let it run
[17:57] <MBisanz> the criteria is that if he accepts, he must register an account and a CU must confirm
[17:57] <Cream> someone nominate me :D
[17:58] <Scarian> MBisanz: What was his IP?
[17:58] <Scetoaux> yeah, MBisanz basically said it
[17:58] <Cream> MBisanz, and a bureaucrat must link the contribs
[17:58] <Scarian> 156.X?
[17:58] * WBOSITG nominates Cream
[17:58] <Malinaccier> MBisanz: is he actually gonna register?
[17:58] * Nowknownas nominates cream...to make him a coffee
[17:58] <Scetoaux> no
[17:58] <MBisanz> the IP I was thinking of? no
[17:58] <Malinaccier> darn
[17:58] <MBisanz> he refuses consistently
[17:58] * WBOSITG watches Cream fail due to the "per IRC" nom statement"
[17:58] <Scetoaux> he's been refusing for years
[17:58] <Malinaccier> MBisanz: I saw his RFA...
[17:58] <Chetblong> Cream: gimme coffe
[17:58] <east718|away> MBisanz > 238.
[17:58] <Scetoaux> since before I even registered, afaik
[17:58] <Chetblong> *coffee
[17:58] <east718|away> 156 is libs. ^_^
[17:58] <Prodego> ffm: it is impossible to make an IP a sysop
[17:58] <WBOSITG> east718|away < WBOSITG < 300012
[17:58] <Scarian> east718|away: Did you see his new account?
[17:59] <east718|away> :o account? where?
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[17:59] <Majorly> o hai Chetblong
[17:59] <WBOSITG> Prodego, unless the IP makes an account.
[17:59] <WBOSITG> :)
[17:59] <Scetoaux> yeah, WBOSITG
[17:59] <Chetblong> hey Maj o rly?
[17:59] <Malinaccier> WBOSITG: alright, I'll leave it for a day or two
[17:59] <Prodego> WBOSITG: well then you aren't an IP anymore
[18:00] <Scetoaux> but the point is, it is technically impossible to apply sysop rights to the IP address alone
[18:00] <Scarian> Is the IP a good contributor?
[18:00] <Soxred93>  I'm having an internal debate on whether to accept an RfA nom right as school ends, when I have time, or to wait to July.
[18:00] <gfngr> wait why wont he make an acount
[18:00] <gfngr> it take like 1 min
[18:00] <Scarian> gfngr: Apparently.
[18:00] <Majorly> Soxred93, don't accept ever
[18:00] <Scetoaux> Just as that IP address can't use Twinkle, for example, because it requires a user configuration subpage
[18:00] <Malinaccier> Scarian: 22K edits
[18:00] <Scetoaux> it requires the ability to edit the monobook.js
[18:00] <Scarian> They should make it hard for people to make accounts...
[18:00] <Scarian> It'd weed out a lot of "unsuitable" candidates.
[18:00] <Nowknownas> gfngr: what is your first language?
[18:00] <Scetoaux> Require E-Mail?
[18:00] <Scarian> Nowknownas: English. :|
[18:00] <Soxred93> Why should I not majorly accept?
[18:01] <gfngr> English is my 1st
[18:01] <WBOSITG> Malinaccier, good :)
[18:01] <Malinaccier> They should require a name and address
[18:01] <Scarian> gfngr: How old are you?
[18:01] <WBOSITG> Prodego, fair point.
[18:01] <Scetoaux> Malinaccier: I wouldn't go that far.
[18:01] <Malinaccier> so that it scares them into not vandalizing
[18:01] <Majorly> because you Soxred93 would be better to not
[18:01] <gfngr> i just am typing wit 1 hand cause i broke the other
[18:01] <Scetoaux> I've only revealed my first name, and my address is not localized to anything more than the county I live in
[18:01] <Scarian> Some guy said credit cards at [[WP:VILLAGE]]
[18:01] <Nowknownas> gfngr: Please can you speak it correctly please, :b
[18:01] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: we wouldn't keep the address, just amke them type it in
[18:01] <gfngr> k
[18:01] <WBOSITG> gfngr, broke it, sure.
[18:01] <Soxred93> I already participate in a lot of admin areas
[18:01] <WBOSITG> :P
[18:01] <Scetoaux> ah
[18:01] <Scarian> Exhausted it more like.
[18:01] <gfngr> im >16
[18:01] <Scetoaux> so I could type 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
[18:02] <Nowknownas> Congratulations
[18:02] <Malinaccier> Soxred93: at least wait for July
[18:02] <Soxred93> WP:ACC, WP:OP, WP:AIV, WP:UAA, WP:NPP, etc.
[18:02] * Scetoaux degausses his monitor.
[18:02] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: I think it would slightly deter things
[18:02] <WBOSITG> gfngr, I'm < 15
[18:02] <Majorly> Soxred93, what about wikipedia?
[18:02] <WBOSITG> no, Worng.
[18:02] <Majorly> WBOSITG, O_o
[18:02] <gfngr> lol you 14?
[18:02] <WBOSITG> I'm < 16
[18:02] <Scetoaux> Yeah, but it'd be less work for us anti-vandal fighters, eh?
[18:02] <Scarian> Soxred93: Don't jump into it straight away.
[18:02] <Soxred93> Majorly, ???
[18:02] <WBOSITG> even
[18:02] <Nowknownas> And I am 17, lets have a party
[18:02] <WBOSITG> ;P
[18:02] <Scetoaux> wait, are we doing age here?
[18:02] <gfngr> are u an admuin
[18:02] <WBOSITG> Woo, the drinks are on Nowknownas
[18:02] * east718|away runs everyone off his damn lawn
[18:02] <Scarian> gfngr: Yes, they are an admin.
[18:02] <WBOSITG> lol
[18:02] <Scetoaux> lol
[18:02] * Scarian isn't sure on sex.
[18:03] * Scetoaux is 17
[18:03] <gfngr> omg
[18:03] <WBOSITG> Majorly, o.O
[18:03] <WBOSITG> gfngr, I am.
[18:03] <Malinaccier> gfngr: there are no age limits to adminship, but people will oppose based on age if it is made known
[18:03] <gfngr> that is cool
[18:03] <Scetoaux> yeah
[18:03] <Majorly> oh they will take the opportunity
[18:03] <Majorly> anything to oppose
[18:03] <WBOSITG> Malinaccier, Yeah, I got an age oppose.
[18:03] <CWii> so I'm pretty screwed :P
[18:03] <Scarian> Like Friday.
[18:03] <Majorly> age is perfect
[18:03] <Scetoaux> I had made it known, but I removed it from my user page
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[18:03] <Scetoaux> Of course, it's still available in the page history
[18:03] <WBOSITG> From Tiptoety
[18:03] <Scarian> Scetoaux: get it deleted.
[18:03] * Majorly seems to remember Scetoaux negatively...
[18:03] <Malinaccier> WBOSITG: I didn't :p
[18:03] <gfngr> cool dont tell any one im gona be an admin by sept 29
[18:04] <WBOSITG> Scetoaux, I'll delete it if you like
[18:04] <Soxred93> Great
[18:04] <Scetoaux> No need.
[18:04] <Malinaccier> Majorly: why?
[18:04] <Soxred93> So I will fail
[18:04] <Monobi> Any bot ideas
[18:04] <Soxred93> Because everyone knows my agi
[18:04] <Nowknownas> I doubt this highly,
[18:04] <Soxred93> Monobi, all I have are kept to myself
[18:04] <Scarian> Soxred93: you'd get like 2 opposes tops
[18:04] <CWii> I'm 14!
[18:04] <Scetoaux> Yeah
[18:04] <CWii> there.
[18:04] <Scarian> Soxred93: (for age)
[18:04] <Majorly> Soxred93, 93 is plenty old enough
[18:04] <Scetoaux> Age is not really going to b e much of a factor
[18:04] <CWii> Screw me over now.
[18:04] <WBOSITG> CWii, happy birthday for ages ago
[18:04] <CWii> :)
[18:04] <Scetoaux> I'm just not going to advertise it until AFTER I become an admin
[18:04] <Majorly> lol
[18:04] <WBOSITG> lol
[18:04] <WBOSITG> if and when
[18:05] <CWii> Scarian, good plan
[18:05] <Soxred93> I think everyone can calculate based on the year, that I am 15
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[18:05] <Scetoaux> Majorly: Does your negative recollection of me have anything to do with an RFC?
[18:05] <Scarian> CWii: I have no plan.
[18:05] <Majorly> I told Anonymous Dissident to remove his age from his userpage just before his rfa. he got 144/1/0 iirc
[18:05] <CWii> Scetoaux, good plan
[18:05] <WBOSITG> Soxred93, and younger than me, woo
[18:05] <Nowknownas> IS THERE NOONE OVER THE AGE OF 20 HERE???
[18:05] <Malinaccier> lol
[18:05] <Scarian> I'm 21.
[18:05] <WBOSITG> nope.
[18:05] <gfngr> My dad is over 20
[18:05] <CWii> Scarian, ahh the wonders of tab complete :)
[18:05] <Majorly> Nowknownas, yes
[18:05] <WBOSITG> :O
[18:05] <Soxred93> I beat CWii :)
[18:05] <Majorly> lots of people
[18:05] <gfngr> and my brother
[18:05] <Malinaccier> Some op needsd to kick Scarian
[18:05] <Nowknownas> thank the lawd
[18:05] <Malinaccier> too old
[18:05] <NotASpy> Nowknownas: plenty of us.
[18:05] <CWii> Soxred93, to what????
[18:05] <Scarian> Malinaccier: How old are you?
[18:05] <Soxred93> Permit
[18:05] <Malinaccier> Not over 20
[18:05] <WBOSITG> Scarian, are you at Uni?
[18:06] <WBOSITG> :)
[18:06] <Nowknownas> 18 next month
[18:06] <Scarian> WBOSITG: I'm a writer.
[18:06] <Soxred93> *woohoo*
[18:06] <WBOSITG> oh.
[18:06] <Nowknownas> !!woot!!
[18:06] <Monobi> Well, it appears user over the age of 21 are incapable of serious political thought
[18:06] <CWii> Soxred93, oh fuck you ;-)
[18:06] <Sceptre> Majorly: you're from Manchester, right?
[18:06] <Scarian> Malinaccier: 19?
[18:06] <Soxred93> I'm going driving later tonight :)
[18:06] <Malinaccier> Scarian: have you written anything good?
[18:06] <Scetoaux> Majorly: Does your negative recollection of me have anything to do with an RFC?
[18:06] <Monobi> *users
[18:06] * WBOSITG reports CWii to ArbCom
[18:06] <WBOSITG> AGAIN
[18:06] <Howcheng> i'm waaaay over 20
[18:06] <Soxred93> It's still a big deal for me, everyone!
[18:06] <gfngr> WBOSITG are you smart?
[18:06] <Cream> yes Nowknownas?
[18:06] <Monobi> Howcheng = 43
[18:06] <Scarian> Malinaccier: I can't say... but, no. :D
[18:06] <Majorly> Sceptre, no
[18:06] <WBOSITG> I'm so SMRT
[18:06] <Majorly> Scetoaux, no
[18:06] <WBOSITG> * SMART.
[18:06] <WBOSITG> :P
[18:06] <CWii> WBOSITG, oh noes not agian
[18:06] <Cream> S
[18:06] <Cream> m
[18:06] <Cream> R
[18:06] <Cream> T
[18:06] <Sceptre> oh, I was wondering if you could help me :(
[18:06] <gfngr> lol
[18:06] <Howcheng> monobi: not yet :P
[18:07] <Monobi> Howcheng, 34
[18:07] <WBOSITG> lol, that was so petty
[18:07] <Malinaccier> Scarian: lol
[18:07] <Howcheng> 38
[18:07] <CWii> WBOSITG, will it be for CAPS LOCK this time ;-)
[18:07] <Monobi> Dang
[18:07] <Majorly> Sceptre, why
[18:07] <WBOSITG> :P
[18:07] <Scarian> There are like 5 messages a second coming in.
[18:07] <WBOSITG> Sceptre > WBOSITG
[18:07] * Scarian goes and lays down.
[18:07] <NotASpy> Sceptre: run. that's all the help you need.
[18:07] <NotASpy> :p
[18:07] <WBOSITG> Scarian, I agree.
[18:07] <Sceptre> Majorly: how the hell can a train operator get "Oxfrod Road" from "Picadilly"?
[18:07] <CWii> what?
[18:07] <Soxred93> I still laugh at this category name: Fair use articles needing expert attention
[18:07] <Majorly> I don't know what you mean
[18:07] <Nowknownas> Oxfrod road?
[18:07] <NotASpy> Sceptre: what's happened ?
[18:07] <WBOSITG> Sceptre, if he was from Scotland?
[18:08] <Sceptre> NotASpy: I'm going to a gig next month
[18:08] <Majorly> Soxred93, have you written any articles?
[18:08] <Scetoaux> hmm
[18:08] <WBOSITG> or operating in Mongolia.
[18:08] <Soxred93> Yes
[18:08] <Sceptre> it's in Manchester
[18:08] <Scetoaux> I know I've seen you before, Majorly
[18:08] <CWii> Soxred93, nope. not a flicker on the laugh-o-meter
[18:08] <NotASpy> Sceptre: so you've booked the wrong ticket, right.
[18:08] <Soxred93> Fair Use Articles?
[18:08] * Nowknownas loved  the tube party on the 1st!
[18:08] <CWii> Soxred93, oh. haha?
[18:08] <Sceptre> NotASpy: the only other locations are Birmingham and London
[18:08] <Scarian> Nowknownas: You're too young to drink.
[18:08] <Majorly> NotASpy, they are different stations
[18:08] <Sceptre> Manchester may be bad, but at least they're not softies
[18:09] <Majorly> manchester is not bad
[18:09] <Scarian> Oh come on.
[18:09] <Scetoaux> trying to find out where and why you remember me negatively "[18:04] * Majorly seems to remember Scetoaux negatively... "
[18:09] <Sceptre> Majorly: compared to Yorkshire, the rest of the UK is pretty much shit :p
[18:09] <Nowknownas> Scarian, yes, your point is?
[18:09] <Nowknownas> lol
[18:09] <NotASpy> Majorly: yeah, been to/through both over the years.
[18:09] * Scarian looks at Nowknownas' undeveloped liver.
[18:09] <Scarian> Ja.
[18:09] <Sceptre> the point is, how the hell can National Rail get "Manchester Oxford Road" from "Manchester Picadilly" (one c)?
[18:09] <Majorly> two cs
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[18:10] <Sceptre> Majorly: I know
[18:10] <Scetoaux> ah well
[18:10] <Majorly> Sceptre, you made a mistake, obviously
[18:10] <Scetoaux> I'm not going to worry about it
[18:10] <NotASpy> Sceptre: they usually sell tickets to Manchester (all terminals)
[18:10] <Sceptre> how the hell did it get Oxford Road, then?
[18:10] <Majorly> Scetoaux, have you ever opposed an rfa?
[18:10] <Majorly> Sceptre, it?
[18:10] <Majorly> you mean "you"
[18:10] <Sceptre> no, the journey planner
[18:10] <Scetoaux> Majorly: Yes
[18:10] <Majorly> NotASpy, no, I got Manchester Piccadilly
[18:10] <Sceptre> I understand the two will be like, half a mile apart at most
[18:10] <Scarian> Well walk it?
[18:11] <NotASpy> Sceptre: they divert trains from Picc to Ox Rd during engineering work into Picc
[18:11] <Majorly> Scetoaux, it was probably an oppose of yours that annoyed me :) Don't take it personally
[18:11] <CWii> oh guess what people!
[18:11] <Majorly> they aren't far
[18:11] <NotASpy> there's a train from Picc to Ox Rd
[18:11] <Sceptre> jeez, guys, I'm having a go at crappy search engines ;)
[18:11] <NotASpy> Platform 16, I think.
[18:11] <Majorly> er
[18:11] <Scetoaux> lol
[18:11] <Majorly> they don't go that high
[18:11] <CWii> I found out today that the High Schooler next door to me is a drug addcit :/
[18:11] <Scetoaux> I don't oppose much any more
[18:11] <Majorly> 14 is highest
[18:11] <Scetoaux> I completely changed my outlook towards RFA
[18:12] <Majorly> CWii, my brother is a druggie, beat that
[18:12] <Sceptre> NotASpy: on the line I'm going (M'boro-York-Leeds-Huddersfield-Picc-Airport), Piccadilly is the second-to-last stop
[18:12] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: after you get opposed on your own RFA it all changes
[18:12] <CWii> Majorly, is he
[18:12] <Scetoaux> yeah
[18:12] * skenmy (n=skenmy@freenode/staff/wikimedia.skenmy) Quit ("Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?" )
[18:12] <Scetoaux> like on my userpage: "I participate in a lot of RFAs. I have recently decided that my only criterion that people need to meet for adminship is confidence that a user would not abuse the tools or misuse them, whether by accident or intent. I will not oppose a user on the basis of self-nomination, or the "no need for the tools" argument. I do expect that a user has experience in administrator related areas (AIV, RFPP, XfD, etc.)
[18:12] <Scetoaux> Sorry,
[18:12] * CWii hugs Majorly
[18:12] <NotASpy> it'll be 13 or 14 then, it's the two platforms that are separate to the rest of the station.
[18:12] <Scetoaux> tl;dr: I default to support unless there is reason to oppose.
[18:12] <Majorly> NotASpy, yeaha
[18:13] <Majorly> I was on 13 last night
[18:13] <Malinaccier> I feel like crap about an RFA I got snowed
[18:13] <Scarian> Is it possible to go *outside* of T5?
[18:13] <Scetoaux> eh?
[18:14] <Scetoaux> I'm only showing one RFA for you, and yours was unopposed
[18:14] <NotASpy> anyway, it's a two minute trip on the train, Sceptre, and if your ticket isn't valid, it'll cost you £2 or something.
[18:14] * Scarian sighs and retreats into his corner as no one listened to him.
[18:14] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: an RFA that I made a good point on which got it snowed
[18:14] * Tinkleheimer is very sad cause he found out his favorite artist's pet died :(.
[18:14] <Prodego> I only !vote on rfas for people I have had some sort of contact with
[18:14] <Sceptre> NotASpy: TPXE are overestimating then
[18:14] <Scetoaux> oh
[18:15] <Majorly> anyone who uses the word !vote shouldn't be voting
[18:15] <Scetoaux> yeah, well
[18:15] <Scetoaux> that's RFA
[18:15] <Scetoaux> Majorly: I don't know what else to call it
[18:15] <Prodego> Majorly: you just said !vote
[18:15] <Scetoaux> lol, maybe that's what annoyed you
[18:15] <gfngr> Prodego vote for me in the future please
[18:15] <Majorly> Scetoaux, what's wrong with "vote"
[18:15] <Majorly> because that's what it is
[18:15] <Scarian> Malinaccier: Snow Ironholds?
[18:15] * Chetblong is now known as HoneyTruck
[18:16] <Prodego> yes, but can't we at least pretend it isn't?
[18:16] <Malinaccier> Scarian: no, it was someone whose RFA was going almost perfect
[18:16] <Scetoaux> Majorly: I don't see people using "vote", and I merely thought "!vote" was a formality
[18:16] * Nowknownas needs a cigarette
[18:16] <Scarian> Malinaccier: What happeneD?
[18:16] <Scarian> *d
[18:16] <Prodego> Scetoaux: no, no
[18:16] <Malinaccier> Scarian: hold on
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[18:16] <Prodego> Scetoaux: people say !vote because everyone knows RfA is a vote, but it isn't supposed to be
[18:16] <WBOSITG> Majorly, oh dear, I got shit for that a while back
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[18:16] <NotASpy> Sceptre: unless they're routing the train round via Carstairs Junction or something, it's a 2 min trip. How long does TPEX say ?
[18:17] <CWii> hey, uh, somebody
[18:17] <CWii> :)
[18:17] <WBOSITG> CWii, yeah?
[18:17] <Scetoaux> But if the prefix exclamation point is supposed to be a modifier, I wasn't entirely aware of exactly how
[18:17] <WBOSITG> Quickly
[18:17] * HoneyTruck is now known as HoneyWagon
[18:17] <WBOSITG> :)
[18:17] <gfngr> !op
[18:17] <MZMcBride> Yes?
[18:17] <gfngr> !vote
[18:17] <Golbez> gfngr- speak
[18:17] <Martinp23> hai
[18:17] <gfngr> !ban
[18:17] <Scetoaux> But you're right, it is a vote.
[18:17] <Golbez> oh
[18:17] <MZMcBride> gfngr: Stop. Now.
[18:17] <Soxred93> Hmm?
[18:17] <Scetoaux> I had an issue with RFB about this
[18:17] <gfngr> lol k
[18:17] <WBOSITG> gfngr, stop it, ta'.
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[18:17] * Nowknownas proposes changing the topic of this channell to "Wikipedia/manchester travel advice"
[18:17] <CWii> WBOSITG, no look:
[18:18] <CWii>  somebody (n=somebody@3.143.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com) has joined #wikipedia-en
[18:18] <Scarian> Why would you "lol" at that?
[18:18] <Scetoaux> Why is there an arbitrary percentage at which a bureaucrat can be promoted?
[18:18] <WBOSITG> CWii, lol
[18:18] <Scetoaux> I always percieved this to be a trust issue
[18:18] <Tinkleheimer> Has anyone heard of the artist [[Angus Oblong]]? :(
[18:18] <WBOSITG> Hi, err, somebody
[18:18] <Scetoaux> First of all, it reduces it to a pure vote
[18:18] <WBOSITG> Bye all
[18:18] <Scarian> Scetoaux: They need to show that they know what a consensus is.
[18:18] <Tinkleheimer> Wait nvm
[18:18] <Macy> hi WBOSITG
[18:18] <CWii> bye WBOSITG
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[18:18] <Scetoaux> Consensus is a percentage?
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[18:19] <Majorly> o hai rory096
[18:19] <Scetoaux> Then why would we specifically state that straw polls are discouraged?
[18:19] <Scetoaux> If consensus is a percentage
[18:19] * ChanServ sets mode: +o NotASpy
[18:19] <Majorly> Scetoaux, because rfa is stupid
[18:19] * NotASpy sets mode: -o NotASpy
[18:19] <Scetoaux> Good point.
[18:19] <Monobi> Obama
[18:19] <Monobi> Sucks
[18:19] <Scetoaux> I have no answer to that.
[18:19] <Scarian> Scetoaux: A consensus is when there is a strong argument *for* or *against* something.
[18:19] <Monobi> NotASpy, ?
[18:19] <Majorly> Monobi
[18:19] <Majorly> sucks
[18:19] <Scarian> Scetoaux: You know though, right?
[18:19] * HoneyWagon is now known as Chetblong
[18:19] <Majorly> lol Chetblong
[18:19] <rory096> hey Majorly
[18:19] <Scetoaux> Yeah
[18:19] <Scetoaux> I guess
[18:19] <Monobi> Majorly, of course not, I'm full of logic and reasoning, unlike Evil Obama
[18:19] <NotASpy> Monobi: just testing my scripty thing.
[18:19] * rory096 stabs cablevision
[18:19] <Scetoaux> It's jsut that strong argument can fall short in percentage
[18:20] <Chetblong> Majorly: teehee
[18:20] <Malinaccier> Scarian: I'm looking for it right now
[18:20] <Monobi> NotASpy, oh, is it chanserv.py ?
[18:20] <Majorly> Monobi, of course you are
[18:20] <Monobi> Majorly, I am also full of whiskey and beer
[18:20] <Scetoaux> 89% shouldn't fail a candidate without consideration of the oppose votes
[18:20] <Monobi> :-D
[18:20] <Malinaccier> Scarian: it was a while ago
[18:20] <Scarian> Malinaccier: Whilst I was waiting in your lobby I correct some capitalisation on your userpage.
[18:20] <Majorly> Monobi, srsly?
[18:20] <Monobi> No
[18:20] <Scetoaux> if the oppose votes are weak, 89% should pass a candidate
[18:20] <Monobi> :-D
[18:20] <NotASpy> Monobi: I think so, let me check
[18:20] <Monobi> Ok
[18:20] <Scetoaux> if the oppose votes are strong, 89% is taken to be less of a consensus
[18:20] <rory096> what?
[18:20] <Scarian> Scetoaux: Technically, percentages should play no part whatsoever.
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[18:21] <Scetoaux> Basically that's what I'm saying
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[18:21] <Scarian> Except you still have percentages in there ;-)
[18:21] <Scetoaux> It should be up to the bureaucrat's judgement
[18:21] <Scetoaux> just like it appears to be in RFA
[18:21] <Scetoaux> of course, I'm not a bureaucrat, and I'm not an administrator
[18:21] * masterpersona is now known as Shanel
[18:21] <TenPoundHammer> gah
[18:22] <Scetoaux> the only permissions I have are those given freely
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[18:22] * Reedy (n=Reedy@wikimedia/Reedy) Quit ("Leaving" )
[18:22] * Scarian might vandalise WBOSITG's userpage...
[18:22] <Scetoaux> by the way
[18:22] <Scetoaux> was the rollback throttle ever removed?
[18:22] <Sceptre> NotASpy: I thought you meant Airport to Picca
[18:22] <Sceptre> which is three minutes >_>
[18:23] <Sceptre> no, airport is fifteen minutes
[18:23] <Sceptre> Oxford Road is three minutes
[18:23] <Prodego> Scetoaux: yes
[18:23] <NotASpy> so where do you need to get to ?
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[18:23] <rory096> holy crap
[18:23] <Sceptre> Piccadilly
[18:23] <Luna-San> Scetoaux: I haven't heard about it in a while, which seems to imply it was removed or people got over it?
[18:23] <rory096> i'm hearing things coming from my cell phone
[18:23] <Sceptre> brb, FF3 RC2
[18:23] <rory096> but no noise is coming out of it
[18:23] * Sceptre (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sceptre) Quit (Remote closed the connection )
[18:23] <CWii> stop talking so much everyone!
[18:23] <CWii> you're going to fill up my logs!
[18:23] <Luna-San> omg Prodego <3
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[18:24] <Scetoaux> I guess I could test on the sandbox
[18:24] <TenPoundHammer> hate it when Twinkle can't find the target page
[18:24] <Prodego> Scetoaux: technically it wasn't removed, just made ridiculously high
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[18:24] <Scetoaux> actually, that wouldn't work too well
[18:24] <Scarian> Prodego: To what limit?
[18:24] <Prodego> Luna-San: omg Luna
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[18:24] <Scetoaux> Prodego: Fine with me.  I rarely had hit the throttle to begin with, even when I use Huggle.
[18:24] <Prodego> Scarian: I don't know 100 a minute? something worth ignoring
[18:24] * masterpersona is now known as Shanel
[18:24] <Scarian> Ugh... that's awful.
[18:24] * Sfan00 (n=sfan00@dyn-62-56-83-45.dslaccess.co.uk) has left #Wikipedia-en
[18:24] <Luna-San> Wow. o.o
[18:25] <Scarian> That's just stupid. Seriously. Like 10 would've been fine.
[18:25] <Majorly> 100 isn't a limit
[18:25] <Scetoaux> Scarian: Consensus was to remove it completely
[18:25] <Scarian> Hmm... People have no future sight.
[18:25] <Luna-San> 100 is a limit no person would ever hit; does prevent a painful botnet deal, though
[18:25] <Malinaccier> Scarian: well I can't find it
[18:25] <MZMcBride> The rollback throttle is 10 / min.
[18:25] <MZMcBride> Check the API.
[18:26] <Scarian> Woo!
[18:26] <Prodego> guess they got over that then :)
[18:26] <Scarian> Malinaccier: Ah, never mind. I think I've forgotten what you were looking for... Sorry :$
[18:26] <Malinaccier> Scarian: lol
[18:26] <Scetoaux> what about page move throttles?
[18:27] <Monobi> Rollback, rollback
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[18:27] <MZMcBride> Page move throttles are ... 8 / min?
[18:27] <Luna-San> There is a throttle on that. I was thinking 8, yeah.
[18:27] <Scetoaux> that's pretty high too
[18:27] <Prodego> MZMcBride: are you sure it is 10?
[18:27] <MZMcBride> Yes.
[18:27] <Prodego> MZMcBride: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12760
[18:27] <MZMcBride> That bug is wrong.
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[18:27] <Scetoaux> according to Gurch it's 10
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[18:28] <MZMcBride> I told Gurch it was 100; turns out it's not.
[18:28] <Prodego> so it is all your fault :)
[18:28] <Majorly> you lied to gurch
[18:28] <Majorly> how cruel
[18:28] <MZMcBride> I didn't lie. :P
[18:28] <Scarian> Firefox can't find the server at en.wikipedia.org.
[18:28] <MZMcBride> I was in the room. Tim said he had raised it to 100.
[18:28] <MZMcBride> But it isn't.
[18:28] <Malinaccier> Scarian: btw, thanks for the correction to my userpage
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[18:29] * Nowknownas can't beleive he just saw that
[18:29] <SteveCrossin> hey, in a channel
[18:29] <Scarian> Malinaccier: Probably the most constructive edit I've made today.
[18:29] <Prodego> got a link to the api query?
[18:29] <Malinaccier> lol
[18:29] * Alexfusco5 is now known as Alexfusco5|Away
[18:29] <SteveCrossin> how do you turn on the voice control?
[18:29] <Prodego> don't want to try to construct it :)
[18:29] <MZMcBride> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=userinfo&uiprop=ratelimits
[18:29] <Majorly> o hai smoddy
[18:29] <Nowknownas> Homeless people fighting outside my house lol
[18:29] <Scetoaux> well
[18:29] <Majorly> shame you couldn't make it
[18:29] <MZMcBride> That should tell you your ratelimits.
[18:29] <Scetoaux> I know none of you probably care about this
[18:29] <SteveCrossin> like, if someone is devoiced, they cant talk?
[18:29] <Scetoaux> but I'm on my last week of school for the school yea
[18:29] <Scetoaux> *year
[18:29] * SteveCrossin is trying to do that in his channel
[18:30] * Scarian pats Scetoaux.
[18:30] <Scarian> Well done.
[18:30] <Scetoaux> and then I'll be a senior in high school
[18:30] <Scetoaux> ah
[18:30] <Nowknownas> homeless people //still// fighting outside my house
[18:30] <SteveCrossin> MZMcBride: you know channel commands?
[18:30] <smoddy> hi Majorly -- I was needed in college in the evening and wouldn't have made it back in time
[18:30] <MZMcBride> SteveCrossin: You need to set the channel +m.
[18:30] <SteveCrossin> ah
[18:30] <Scarian> Nowknownas: Go feed them.
[18:30] <Scetoaux> back to the age thing, that's something I never removed from my userpage (the fact that I'm a junior in high school)
[18:30] <SteveCrossin> erm
[18:30] <Scetoaux> ah wait
[18:30] <ffm> Nowknownas: lol
[18:30] <Scetoaux> I did
[18:30] <Scetoaux> nevermind
[18:31] <ffm> Malinaccier: hows life?
[18:31] <Nowknownas> Sitrep: One homeless man KO'd
[18:31] <Scetoaux> hmmm
[18:31] <Scetoaux> I have an idea
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[18:31] <Scetoaux> where's Huntster
[18:32] <Malinaccier> ffm: worth living
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[18:32] <Malinaccier> ffm: we need to slap WBOSITG
[18:32] * Nowknownas slaps WBOSITG
[18:32] <Malinaccier> harder
[18:32] <Majorly> O_O
[18:32] * Nowknownas slaps malinaccier
[18:32] <Sceptre> Malinaccier: #wikipedia-BDSM, please
[18:33] * Malinaccier punts Nowknownas
[18:33] <Scetoaux> I just realized how suspicious my post sounded
[18:33] <Scetoaux> "Do you have access to any of the L-Tronics Little L-Per equipment?"
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[18:33] * Nowknownas crys, runs to majorly for emotional support
[18:33] <Scetoaux> lol
[18:33] <Malinaccier> Sceptre: why?
[18:33] * Scarian is now known as Scarian|Smoke
[18:33] * Majorly is the last person you should run to for emotional support
[18:33] <MZMcBride> Tru.dat.
[18:34] * Nowknownas runs away from majorly, goes to his mummy
[18:34] <Majorly> there there
[18:34] <Malinaccier> I want FDP
[18:34] <Macy> SteveCrossin: Have you asked RyRy5 where did he got the "designing other's pages"?
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[18:34] <SteveCrossin> hmm?
[18:35] * SteveCrossin is in ##Steve right now discussing something, kinda busy :)
[18:35] * Cream installs Inkskape
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[18:36] <Macy> SteveCrossin: He got it from Phaedriel's userpage
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[18:36] <Cream> It is possible to put a SVG as a background image?
[18:36] <ffm> Malinaccier: why?
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[18:36] <ffm> 18:32  Malinaccier$ ffm: we need to slap WBOSITG
[18:37] <Scetoaux> Cream: For what?
[18:37] <Monobi> Cream, yeah, probably, but just export it to png
[18:37] <Cream> userpage
[18:37] <Malinaccier> ffm: he needs to hurry up
[18:37] <ffm> Malinaccier: I know.
[18:37] <Monobi> Many browsers don't deal with SVGs too well
[18:37] <Scetoaux> doesn't the mediawiki software convert it to PNG for viewing?
[18:38] <SteveCrossin> Macy: lol
[18:38] <SteveCrossin> he did?
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[18:38] <Howcheng> Scetouax: yes
[18:38] <SteveCrossin> naughty naughry
[18:38] <Howcheng> Scetoaux *
[18:39] <Macy> SteveCrossin: Yes, after making a comparison between Phaedriel's "user page design" and RyRy5's "user page design" section
[18:39] <SteveCrossin> he is naughty naughty naughty
[18:39] <Scetoaux> wow
[18:40] <Scetoaux> some people have not taken operations security
[18:40] * Macy uploads an image
[18:42] <Scetoaux> see
[18:42] <Scetoaux> the thing is
[18:42] <Scetoaux> I've been trying for a long time to find images to put on the article for L-Tronics
[18:42] <Scetoaux> but there haven't been any
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[18:43] <Scetoaux> I've requested permission from two sources so far that have denied releasing their images to CC licenses
[18:43] <Scetoaux> L-Tronics themselves indicated they would allow use on Wikipedia only, but we can't do that
[18:43] <Malinaccier> I'm not sure Scetoaux, I think we can
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[18:44] <Scetoaux> We can't
[18:44] <MBisanz> if I changed all the user talk templates to brown background and lime green text, would anyone be mad
[18:44] <Pericallis> hi
[18:44] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: Use the following form to upload a work made by someone else who has given permission for it to be used on Wikipedia, or a file that has been released under a "free license". To upload a work of a different kind, please return to Wikipedia:Upload.
[18:44] <Scetoaux> There's a specific licensing template that states that the author has given permission for use on Wikipedia
[18:44] <Macy> Hi Pericallis
[18:44] <Malinaccier> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=en-withpermission&wpUploadDescription={{Information%0A|Description=%0A|Source=%0A|Date=%0A|Author=%0A|Permission=%0A|other_versions=%0A}}
[18:44] <Avruch> yo
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[18:44] <Prodego> Malinaccier, Scetoaux: you can not use images approved for "wikipedia only or educational only" usage
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[18:45] <Scetoaux> right below it:
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[18:45] <Scetoaux> "Wikipedia does not accept images that are licensed for "non-commercial" use, licensed only to Wikipedia, for which permission is required for reuse, or that do not permit derivative works to be created."
[18:45] <Scetoaux> So the answer is no
[18:45] <Howcheng> Malinaccier: we can't
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[18:45] <Malinaccier> Oh
[18:45] <Howcheng> unless there is a legitimate fair use exemption
[18:45] <Malinaccier> didn't see right below it
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[18:45] <Malinaccier> :/
[18:45] <Pericallis> hi Mm40
[18:46] <Macy> Howcheng: would you mind if I ask you a question?
[18:46] <Mm40> hi everyone =)
[18:46] <Macy> hi Mm40
[18:46] <Scetoaux> yeah
[18:46] <Luna-San> Huh. Seems blocking an already-blocked user no longer causes an "edit conflict" (for lack of a better term)
[18:46] <Scetoaux> but there can be no legitimate fair use exemption
[18:46] <Howcheng> Macy: shoot
[18:46] <Scetoaux> because the images I want to use are reproduceable
[18:46] <Mm40> hi Mace and Pericallis =)
[18:46] <Macy> Howcheng: Do you believe it is proper to ask a candidate for RfA their age?
[18:47] <Macy> *retrieved from Sharkface217's questions
[18:47] <Howcheng> I think so ...
[18:47] <Tinkleheimer> I don't think that age should make a difference in RFA
[18:47] <Howcheng> people in this channel disagree with me, however
[18:47] <Mm40> May I...jump in?
[18:47] * Alexfusco5|Away is now known as Alexfusco5
[18:47] <Scetoaux> Sure, Mm40
[18:47] <Howcheng> (we had this conversation a couple of weeks ago)
[18:47] <Macy> Next: Would the age of an RFA candidate affect your decision to vote for them?
[18:47] <Pericallis> but it's not the same a 12-years candidate and a 40 years candidate
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[18:47] <Mm40> I don't believe that it should make a big difference
[18:47] <Mm40> I'm 12
[18:48] <Scetoaux> Oh
[18:48] <Macy> :O
[18:48] <Macy> O_O
[18:48] <Scetoaux> I thought you meant jump into the chat as a whole
[18:48] <Howcheng> Macy: it would make me examine their contributions more
[18:48] <Macy> O_o
[18:48] <rory096> Macy: no, demonstrated maturity is more important than age
[18:48] <Mm40> I know, I'm breaking freenode rules
[18:48] <Scetoaux> I agree with rory096
[18:48] <MBisanz> we have 12 year old admins currently
[18:48] <MBisanz> and we have banned forty year old users
[18:48] <Pericallis> agree
[18:48] <Scetoaux> Mm40: You are?  I haven't read them.
[18:48] <Macy> I agree with rory096 too
[18:48] <Howcheng> true, MBisanz
[18:49] <Macy> Pericallis: Mafores
[18:49] <Avruch> In the absence of demonstrated maturity (i.e. track record not sufficient to go either way) age is important.
[18:49] <Mm40> And anyway, 12-year-olds often are more mature then 40-year-olds =p
[18:49] <Howcheng> but a person of young age is more likely to show immaturity
[18:49] <Avruch> But why does it always come up, I wonder?
[18:49] <Macy> Mafores is 13, and is a sysop on en:wiki
[18:49] <Majorly> who?
[18:49] <Macy> *he is
[18:49] <Pericallis> is he 13? :O
[18:49] <Avruch> I think its because kids always think they are more mature than they are.
[18:49] <Macy> *es:wiki
[18:49] <Malinaccier> Howcheng: but if they don't show it, why look for it needlessly
[18:49] <Howcheng> and Anonymous Dissident is also 13 and a sysop
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[18:49] <Pericallis> I tought he was like 18
[18:49] <Majorly> he was promoted when he was 12
[18:49] <Macy> Pericallis: he told us :P
[18:49] <Howcheng> AD also shows maturity far beyond his age
[18:49] <Tinkleheimer> Isn't Annonymous Dissident really young also?
[18:49] <Majorly> yes
[18:49] <Majorly> he's 13
[18:50] <Mm40> And I'll probably become admin under 15 (I hope)...
[18:50] <Tinkleheimer> Okay, I meant to type that earlier, but I was on the phone
[18:50] <rory096> ilyanep got cratship when he was like 13
[18:50] * Chetblong is now known as Chetblong|away
[18:50] <Macy> Mm40: what's your username?
[18:50] <Mm40> You just said it
[18:50] <Scetoaux> lol
[18:50] <Scetoaux> yeah
[18:50] <Macy> rory096: he was 14, I think
[18:50] <Howcheng> the whole Giggy fiasco should serve as a warning
[18:50] <Malinaccier> lol
[18:50] <rory096> whatever
[18:50] <Scetoaux> I went on Wiki and typed User:Mm40 into the search bar
[18:50] <Scetoaux> Bam.
[18:50] <Scetoaux> I'm there. :p
[18:50] <Howcheng> immaturity can be found in any age, but it's more /likely/ to be found in younger users
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[18:51] <Majorly> he wasa 13
[18:51] <Majorly> also it was 2004
[18:51] <rory096> Howcheng: not really. that's just one data point
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[18:51] <Majorly> people did not give a damn about age
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[18:51] <Pericallis> and also this is internet, everyone can lie its age
[18:51] <MBisanz> wasnt Sam Korn made an arb, cu, and oversight under 17?
[18:51] <Scetoaux> We've had good admins, great admins, bad admins, and atrocious admins
[18:52] <Malinaccier> So who cares about age?  If someone's immature then go oppose them; if they're not, it doesn't matter
[18:52] * Mm40_ is now known as Mm40
[18:52] <Scetoaux> How old was Archtransit?
[18:52] <Majorly> MBisanz, yeah
[18:52] <Mm40> What Giggy fiasco?
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[18:52] <Majorly> or maybe 16
[18:52] <Avruch> Scetoaux: No one really knows, do they? He was a sockmaster
[18:52] <Scetoaux> I wasn't around then, actually
[18:52] <smoddy> MBisanz: I was certainly arbitrator at 16, can't remember exactly for CU and OS
[18:52] <Malinaccier> lol
[18:52] <MBisanz> majorly do you think RfD standards are too high?
[18:52] <Scetoaux> So I really have no right to comment on that issue
[18:52] <Macy> Howcheng: would you make null a vote from someone opposing because of his age?
[18:52] <Howcheng> Malinaccier: the whole conversation is moot for me anyway since I don't really even look at RFAs anymore :)
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[18:52] <MBisanz> i thought so Sam,
[18:52] <MBisanz> RFB majorly*
[18:52] <Malinaccier> Howcheng: :)
[18:52] <Avruch> Malinaccier: If you don't see enough in the contrib history to determine maturity either way, age is a good second measure
[18:53] <Pericallis> hi kibble
[18:53] <MBisanz> Sam Korn, can we expect another run this fall?
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[18:53] <Majorly> MBisanz, yes of course
[18:53] <Pericallis> [[WP:RFA]]
[18:53] <Malinaccier> Avruch: hmm
[18:53] <smoddy> MBisanz: that depends if I forget to take my medication
[18:53] <Macy> Pericallis: stop greeting everyone, remember that there's no bot here
[18:53] * MBisanz hides Sam's medication
[18:53] <rory096> rfd standards?
[18:53] <Malinaccier> Avruch: or you could look at their talk pages
[18:53] <rory096> redirects for deletion?
[18:53] <NotASpy> I've got a theory - any user, if they're told they're too young to be an admin, who then makes a great big song and dance about ageist votes is indeed too young to be an admin.
[18:53] <MBisanz> i corrected rory
[18:53] <MBisanz> to RfB
[18:53] <rory096> oh wait, yeah
[18:53] <rory096> dammit
[18:53] <Majorly> smoddy, feb 2006 for checkuser
[18:53] <Howcheng> Macy: I don't even look at RFAs these days except to see the dramaz
[18:54] <smoddy> Majorly: date?
[18:54] <Avruch> Malinaccier: Which is not always clear, as to maturity. Plus, with people who are younger, its far more likely that immaturity will be a problem.
[18:54] <Majorly> may 2006 for oversight
[18:54] <Majorly> 6th Feb
[18:54] <smoddy> then I was 16
[18:54] <Majorly> lol
[18:54] <Pericallis> Macy: why should I not greet everyone?
[18:54] <Howcheng> NotASpy: agreed
[18:54] <Macy> Pericallis: you look like orejotas xD
[18:54] <rory096> NotASpy: not really. if you said someone couldnt be an admin because they're black, you'd think that if they said that racist votes are bullshit, they shouldn't be an admin?
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[18:55] <Macy> Hola Cestmoi
[18:55] <Macy> :)
[18:55] <Pericallis> hi Cestmoi
[18:55] * Luna-San applauds rory096 for seemingly sensible straw man
[18:55] <Scetoaux> It's not like a person has any control over their age.
[18:55] <Macy> Pericallis: Cestmoi is here, party time on #wikipedia-es !!!
[18:55] <Scetoaux> It's even in the arguments to avoid in adminship discussions page
[18:55] <Avruch> Scetoaux: No, they don't have control of their age, and no one is *blaming* them for being young
[18:56] <Malinaccier> I don't think a 13 year old whose RFA is snowed should have to edit for 5 years before the community gives them the mop
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[18:56] <smoddy> I don't blame anyone who voted against me in the arbcom elections of '06 on the grounds of age -- the fact that I disagreed with them did not make their vote invalid
[18:56] <Pericallis> hi CardinalNumber
[18:56] <Cestmoi> Macy: ??????
[18:56] <Avruch> Scetoaux: But there are many instances where young people are rightfully excluded anyway, even if being young isn't their fault
[18:56] <Macy> Cestmoi: :?
[18:56] <rory096> Avruch: and yet they're counting it against them for no reason other than their being young
[18:56] <MBisanz> smoddy under the new rules you must be 18 to run
[18:56] <MBisanz> privacy policy and all
[18:56] <smoddy> MBisanz: for arbcom?
[18:56] <MBisanz> yes
[18:56] <MBisanz> they DQ'd a number of people in the 07' elections
[18:56] <Scetoaux> Avruch: Their immaturity is their fault, not their age.
[18:56] <smoddy> I knew that for CU and OS
[18:56] <Macy> Pericallis: User:SoxBot V got blocked because of updating people's status
[18:56] <MBisanz> also you must verify identity to the foundaiton to run
[18:56] <Avruch> rory096: The fact that it isn't their fault doesn't translate directly to them being held harmless from it
[18:56] <MBisanz> after essjay
[18:56] <smoddy> kinda sensible, actually
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[18:57] <Avruch> Scetoaux: Neither one is their fault, its just the way most kids are.
[18:57] <TenPoundHammer> gah
[18:57] <MBisanz> theory is that even if they dont take CU, they still see stuff on the arb mailing list
[18:57] <smoddy> exactly so
[18:57] <Scetoaux> So oppose them if they're mature, and don't if they aren't.
[18:57] <Pericallis> Macy: so?
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[18:57] <rory096> Avruch: not only is it not their fault, it's irrelevant. the only reason why age would make someone a bad admin would be because of secondary consequences, so it's those that should be examined, not the age itself
[18:57] <Macy> Pericallis: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3ASoxBot+V&year=&month=-1
[18:57] <smoddy> though I wasn't chucked off the mailing list despite having not identified myself
[18:57] <smoddy> so a slight inconsistency there
[18:57] <Avruch> Scetoaux and rory096: The point I made was that if you can't conclusively see that they are mature beyond their years, then you can't assume that either.
[18:58] <Howcheng> Scetoaux: in other words, younger users need to make an extra effort to show their maturity
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[18:58] <Avruch> It makes no sense to assume that someone is unusually mature just because they put up an RfA
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[18:58] <Scetoaux> I never said that
[18:58] <Scetoaux> But generally assumptions of good faith do apply
[18:58] <Majorly> ABF
[18:58] <Avruch> Good faith is really irrelevant to judgment
[18:58] <Avruch> People can make good faith serious errors related to maturity and experience
[18:58] * Cream is trying to get a SVG to work
[18:58] <rory096> Avruch: bullshit. that's abfing.
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[18:59] <Avruch> No, it isn't.
[18:59] <Cream> what is the better way to upload a SVG
[18:59] <Macy> rory096: :O
[18:59] <Cream> directly to Commons?
[18:59] <rory096> Avruch: they should be measured by the same standards as anyone else; if others can be caught for being immature, then there's no reason young people can't
[18:59] <Avruch> Realizing that people who are young are more likely than those who are not to make errors related to maturity and experience has nothing to do with assuming faith of any sort
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[18:59] <Scetoaux> You know
[18:59] <Avruch> All assume good faith means is assume that people are contributing with the right interests at heart, not assume they won't make mistakes.
[18:59] <Scetoaux> I can't make this argument
[19:00] <Scetoaux> Because then I would be a hypocrite
[19:00] <Howcheng> Cream: all free media should go to Commons
[19:00] <MBisanz> omg smoddy i'm looking at the checkuser stats
[19:00] <MBisanz> thatcher and alison must spend 100s of hours a week at it
[19:00] <smoddy> MBisanz: they're frighteningly dull
[19:00] <Avruch> lol
[19:00] <smoddy> MBisanz: that's physically impossible
[19:00] <MBisanz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:CheckUser#Checkuser_usage
[19:00] <Scetoaux> Because age is the argument I use against a certain person that's generated a whole lot of media attention here in the states
[19:01] <Avruch> Age and experience are valid arguments, period. They aren't the end all be all, but they can rightfully contribute to a fuller picture.
[19:01] <MBisanz> smoddy i dont know, i think thatcher must be inventing time to run 2000 CUs in a month
[19:01] <Scetoaux> I'm not denying that
[19:01] <Cream> lol
[19:01] <Cream> there's a wikiwendesay in chicago?
[19:01] <Scetoaux> But it shouldn't be "oh, he's just too young)
[19:01] <smoddy> MBisanz: I've run 50 in the last hour
[19:01] <smoddy> not impossible
[19:02] <smoddy> just unlikely ;-)
[19:02] <Howcheng> Scetoaux: true, i don't think i've ever opposed anyone based solely on age
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[19:02] <Scetoaux> It should be "Oh, I see that he's young, and apparently he's immature as well"
[19:02] <Avruch> Scetoaux: No, generally not. Unless someone has a more considered opinion, but just doesn't express the rest of it.
[19:02] <Scetoaux> OK
[19:03] <Avruch> But, people pick all kinds of strange reasons to oppose. Like a userbox ;p
[19:03] <Malinaccier> lol
[19:04] <Avruch> I was a little worried on that guy with the swastika userbox, but a link to religion from "imaginary friends" doesn't strike me as disqualifying
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[19:04] <Avruch> Although even the swastika userbox guy had it for "Grammar Nazi Cabal" or something
[19:04] <Scetoaux> I really didn't think that was particularly fair
[19:04] <Scetoaux> I had a whole bunch of userboxes
[19:04] <Scetoaux> I think I had like 90 of them
[19:05] <Cream> Where?
[19:05] <Cream> On my past account
[19:05] <Scetoaux> a subpage
[19:05] <Cream> i had a userbox called "This user thinks you're a douchebag"
[19:05] <Scetoaux> I finally requested speedy deletion per user request to delete subpages in their own userspace
[19:06] <Avruch> that helps, although you still need to wait awhile if you do it to help an RfA
[19:06] <Avruch> otherwise the admins watching RfA will point it out anyway
[19:06] <Majorly> smoddy, if users don't do anything *but* do checks, it's not impossible. Have a look at Thatcher's edits
[19:06] <Scetoaux> nah, I just decided it was too much
[19:06] <Malinaccier> Doesn anyone remember the failed RFA over teh Grammar Nazi UBX?
[19:06] <Scetoaux> but the link was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Scetoaux/Userboxes
[19:06] <Avruch> Malinaccier: Just mentioned it, about 15 lines above ;p
[19:06] <Scetoaux> Of course admins can still see it.
[19:06] <Malinaccier> Avruch: lol
[19:06] <smoddy> Majorly: doing more than 168 hours' work in a week is fairly impossible, even for Thatcher
[19:06] <Majorly> if you don't have a job or a life
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[19:07] <Avruch> even if you never left your screen except to knock off for a nap, 168 is hard to beat ;p
[19:07] <Malinaccier> I passed my RFA with a ton of UBXs
[19:08] <MBisanz> thatcher must have 2 machines running
[19:08] <MBisanz> 2 screens with 2 mouses
[19:08] <smoddy> 2 brains, too ;-)
[19:08] <KingsOfHearts> lol you still alking about admins
[19:08] <KingsOfHearts> *talking
[19:09] <Scetoaux> Malinaccier, do you see any userboxes on my page that might incite controversy?
[19:09] <Scetoaux> I don't think I had any
[19:09] <Majorly> it would be ironic if a checkuser was found abusing sockpuppets
[19:09] <Howcheng> someone's RFA failed because of a "Grammar Nazi" ubx? that's lame
[19:09] <Scetoaux> At most maybe something like that John McCain userbox
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[19:09] <Scetoaux> that I had
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[19:09] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: lemme see...
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[19:10] <Scetoaux> Malinaccier: That is, on the deleted page I linked
[19:10] <Luna-San> I thought everybody knew "Thatcher" is actually a group of minimum wage IT workers in a cramped office without any windows?
[19:10] <KingsOfHearts> how do you change your username?
[19:10] <Luna-San> KingsOfHearts: On IRC, or on the wiki?
[19:10] <KingsOfHearts> wikipedia
[19:10] <Luna-San> [[WP:CHU]]
[19:11] <Scetoaux> KingsOfHearts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username
[19:11] <TenPoundHammer> argh
[19:11] <Scetoaux> Er, yeah, and what Luna-San said :p
[19:11] <KingsOfHearts> do i get to keep my edits?
[19:11] <Luna-San> KingsOfHearts: By that method, yes.
[19:11] <Howcheng> Luna-San: it's the CU sweatshop
[19:11] <Rjd|away> Nope; they all go to me :)
[19:11] <Luna-San> Howcheng: Exactly. :D
[19:11] <ffm> KingsOfHearts: What do you want to change to?
[19:12] <Scetoaux> Isn't that one of the jobs of a Bureaucrat?
[19:12] <Scetoaux> to change usernames?
[19:12] <Scetoaux> yep
[19:12] <KingsOfHearts> im gona go edit stuff bye
[19:12] <Scetoaux> answered my own question
[19:13] <KingsOfHearts> ffm i dont knw yet
[19:13] <Cream> brb
[19:13] <Scetoaux> KingsOfHearts: What's your wikipedia username right now
[19:13] <KingsOfHearts> KingsOfHearts
[19:13] <Scetoaux> ah
[19:13] <ffm> KingsOfHearts: Why change? it's a fine one.
[19:13] <ffm> Better than "Firefoxman"
[19:13] <KingsOfHearts> I want some thing cool
[19:13] * ffm CHUs to KingOfHearts.
[19:13] <Scetoaux> lol
[19:14] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: well...there are a few controversial ones about your views but they aren't horrible
[19:14] <ffm> KingsOfHearts: That's plenty cool.
[19:14] <Scetoaux> what's wrong with Firefoxman :p
[19:14] <Scetoaux> Malinaccier: Like what?
[19:14] <ffm> Scetoaux: people read it as number 2 or 3 on [[FFM]]
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[19:14] <ffm> Scetoaux: (at least when I go by FFM)
[19:14] <ffm> Scetoaux: and firefoxman is too long a nick to type.
[19:15] <Avruch> oh I definitely would've thought "focus follows mouse" first ;p
[19:15] <Scetoaux> what's wrong with #2?
[19:15] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: there's nothing an RFA would be opposed over
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[19:16] <KingsOfHearts> Who was willy on wheels excactly?
[19:16] <Scetoaux> I figured as much, but just wondering which ones they were
[19:16] <Scetoaux> I mean I can guess
[19:16] <Scetoaux> Like the cause in Iraq one
[19:16] <Scetoaux> John McCain for prez
[19:16] <Scetoaux> etc.
[19:16] <Scetoaux> Two spaces after a full stop
[19:16] <Malinaccier> Yes
[19:16] <Malinaccier> and censorship...but nobody on Wikipedia disagrees with you on that one
[19:17] <Scetoaux> oh, I'm sure there are exceptions
[19:17] <Malinaccier> Yeah
[19:17] <Malinaccier> but nothing that bad
[19:17] <Scetoaux> lol
[19:18] <Howcheng> KingsOfHearts: Willy was a pagemove vanadl
[19:18] <Howcheng> vandal
[19:18] <Scetoaux> I never really thought that the userboxes themselves would generate any controversy
[19:18] <Scetoaux> Just the fact that I had about 90 of them
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[19:18] <Malinaccier> Nah
[19:18] <Howcheng> he would mass-move articles to "[article name] ON WHEELS!"
[19:18] <Scetoaux> I haven't seen a user with more than I had
[19:18] <Scetoaux> So I figured I had probably overdone it
[19:18] <Howcheng> and some other stuff ... he was far more amusing the Grawp
[19:18] <Howcheng> than *
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[19:19] <Scetoaux> I think the Grawp phenomenon has been blown way out of proportion
[19:19] <Malinaccier> Yeah
[19:19] <Scetoaux> Sure there's this burst of activity every now and then
[19:19] <Malinaccier> he's not that hard to deal with...
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[19:19] <Scetoaux> Yeah
[19:20] <Malinaccier> just move back, block, salt
[19:20] <Scetoaux> Besides
[19:20] <Scetoaux> It's probably 4chan
[19:20] <Malinaccier> then get a CU to block IP
[19:20] <Scetoaux> Which would mean there's nothing you can do about it
[19:20] <Avruch> john mccain for president??? #oppose!
[19:20] <Scetoaux> lol
[19:20] <Howcheng> KingsOfHearts: [[User:Dcoetzee/Willy on Wheels:A Case Study]] for more info
[19:20] <Scetoaux> There goes one :p
[19:21] <Avruch> would it be strange if I said he's just too old? ;-P
[19:21] <Scetoaux> No, because I get that a lot. :p
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[19:21] <Avruch> although I don't really have anything against him
[19:21] <Malinaccier> I don't mind McCain
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[19:22] <Avruch> even went to a rally in 2000, didn't end up voting for him but I have the signed sticker around here somewhere ;p
[19:22] <Malinaccier> I just don't want Hillary
[19:22] <Scetoaux> Well, Hillary's not getting in except as second
[19:22] <Malinaccier> Yeah
[19:22] <Malinaccier> I know
[19:22] <Avruch> which would help Obama with the election, but really chew up his chances to be an actual good president
[19:23] <Scetoaux> Yeah, I'm afraid of that
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[19:23] <Scetoaux> That's two hits there
[19:23] <Avruch> Can't have a president, a wannabe president, and a usetabe president all in the same house
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[19:24] <Scetoaux> 14 reversions per minute
[19:24] <Avruch> thats a lot
[19:24] <Avruch> whats the limit?
[19:24] <Scetoaux> No
[19:24] <Scetoaux> That's what huggle is reporting
[19:25] <Sceptre> Avruch: my dad has had a bet on Hilary to be President :/
[19:25] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: you use huggle now? :(
[19:25] <animum> Sceptre, looks like he lost.
[19:25] <Scetoaux> Yeah, why?
[19:25] <Sceptre> animum: he made it after Obama became the presumptive nominee
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[19:26] <Howcheng> sceptre: that seems kind of silly of him
[19:26] <Sceptre> Howcheng: he thinks Obama's at risk of assassination
[19:26] <Scarian> MBisanz?
[19:26] <Scetoaux> I'm pretty sure I'm using it correctly
[19:26] <Warpath> :O
[19:26] <Monobi> Obama sucks
[19:26] <MBisanz> aye
[19:26] <Scetoaux> The reverts and stuff haven't changed
[19:26] <Sceptre> mainly because he's black
[19:26] <Scetoaux> there's just more of them
[19:26] * Scarian punches Monobi in the ribs.
[19:26] <Warpath> Sceptre, true O_O
[19:26] <Monobi> Obama is an evil socialist
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[19:26] <Monobi> Taxes are evil
[19:27] <Monobi> Hi Aqwis
[19:27] <Monobi> :-D
[19:27] <Scarian> MBisanz: Was just checking your username was correct.
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[19:27] <Sceptre> there's still betting on Clinton to get the presidency
[19:27] <Sceptre> she's 40/1
[19:27] <Scetoaux> Malinaccier: Is there a problem with that?
[19:27] * Majorly beats up Monobi and shoots him with his own gun </irony>
[19:27] <Warpath> XD
[19:27] <Shanel> Monobi is one of those evil fithy randite lolbertarians.
[19:27] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: I guess not...
[19:27] <Aqwis> oh my god
[19:27] <Monobi> :-O
[19:27] <Aqwis> bye
[19:27] <Scarian> Liberals 4 life
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[19:27] <Malinaccier> Scetoaux: Just really automated
[19:27] <Monobi> Scarian, s/liberals/pure evil socialists/
[19:28] <Monobi> Scarian, you should be shot for accepting the practices of thief
[19:28] * Scarian ignores Monobi and his right-wing rants.
[19:28] <NotASpy> Sceptre: at the risk of being morbid and terroristy, what's the betting on Obama being assassinated before the General Election ?
[19:28] <Monobi> NotASpy, nah, not until he is elected
[19:28] <Sceptre> NotASpy: there's no betting on it
[19:28] <Sceptre> bookmakers don't take bets on people dying; it's in bad taste
[19:28] <Scetoaux> I really don't wish it to happen
[19:28] <Majorly> Monobi, so it will happen
[19:29] <Majorly> Monobi, will you be doing it?
[19:29] <Monobi> Of course it will happen
[19:29] <Shanel> Monobi is too lazy.
[19:29] <Monobi> And no, I won't be doing it
[19:29] * Scarian needs a word.
[19:29] <Sceptre> Shanel: do you have any other acronym/political stance fusions?
[19:29] <Majorly> lol Monobi
[19:29] <Scetoaux> I'd rather have him become president than have McCain win because of an assassinatin
[19:29] <Scetoaux> *tion
[19:29] <Scarian> Synonym for "standards".
[19:29] <Scarian> ...?
[19:29] <Sceptre> like Nomnomonomonarchism?
[19:29] <Shanel> Liebral, repugnican.
[19:29] <Scetoaux> Fortunately, the Secret Service seem to know what they're doing
[19:30] * Sceptre sucks at improvisation
[19:30] <Scarian> Shanel: Synonym! Quick!
[19:30] <NotASpy> Scetoaux: they're American - it's all just an illusion.
[19:30] <Sceptre> Shanel: yeah, but neither lie or repugnant are internet acronyms :)
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[19:30] <Avruch> Scetoaux: Debatable, last assasination attempt was awhile back ;p
[19:30] <Monobi> Scetoaux, the thing is, the SS are funded by stolen money
[19:30] <Avruch> Sceptre: More likely that Hillary will get it because of some Obama scandal
[19:30] <Scarian> People care more about politics than words.
[19:30] * Scarian shoots himself.
[19:31] * Warpath attempts to assassinate kurt
[19:31] <Sceptre> Avruch: what scandal?
[19:31] <Shanel> OMG OBama is black
[19:31] <Warpath> OMG Shanel is brown ;O
[19:31] * Sceptre thinks Shanel has a hammer, because she hit the nail on the head
[19:31] <SteveCrossin> OMG Warpath is lame
[19:31] <Warpath> OMG I'am :O
[19:31] <Avruch> Sceptre: Any scandal. Anything significant enough to have him withdraw early in her favor, which is still a serious possibility.
[19:31] <Sceptre> OMG SteveCrossin has no decent taste in music
[19:31] <SteveCrossin> OMG lol
[19:31] <SteveCrossin> anyway, the reason im here
[19:31] <Sceptre> TV, I mean
[19:31] <NotASpy> OMGodDE
[19:31] <Warpath> pliz stop pinging OMG :P
[19:32] <Avruch> Holy shit, can we stop with the OMG
[19:32] <Avruch> Just say holy shit, its better :-P
[19:32] <Monobi> Meh, let's just hope evil Obama doesn't win
[19:32] <NotASpy> OMG you swore
[19:32] <Shanel> NO WAI
[19:32] <Howcheng> is someone stalking OMG or something?
[19:32] <SteveCrossin> can an edit be made to a fully protected article, in half an hour?
[19:32] <Sceptre> Howcheng: Warpie is
[19:32] * Shanel assassinates Monobi
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[19:32] <Howcheng> OMG OMG OMG
[19:32] <Warpath> OMg no fsken way did i swear :|
[19:32] <Monobi> Shanel, you are canadian
[19:32] <SteveCrossin> it's Prem Rawat
[19:32] * Shanel is.
[19:32] <Monobi> How do you plan to get a gun
[19:32] * SteveCrossin watches 99% of the channel cower/run away
[19:32] <Avruch> eh?
[19:32] <Sceptre> SteveCrossin: good luck with that :)
[19:32] * Warpath stabs Howcheng :P
[19:33] <Scetoaux> What scandal could possibly cause Obama to withdraw?
[19:33] <Monobi> Your totalitarian gov't is banning them
[19:33] * Howcheng bleeds all over Warpath
[19:33] * Monobi gives Shanel a cookie
[19:33] <Warpath> :D
[19:33] <Sceptre> Shanel: have you heard? They're going to sell milk in bags in the UK too now
[19:33] <Avruch> Scetoaux: Anything related to an affair, some revelation with the Renzo issue, financial problems, newly discovered health issues...
[19:33] * Malinaccier glomps SteveCrossin
[19:33] <Shanel> :O
[19:33] <Sceptre> yeah
[19:33] <SteveCrossin> hi Malinaccier, sorry for booting you
[19:33] <Monobi> Let's just hope Obama crashes in a car accident
[19:33] <Scetoaux> The only affair that could seriously hurt him would be some sort of affair with Jeremiah Wright
[19:33] <Malinaccier> :O
[19:34] <SteveCrossin> Monobi: :/
[19:34] <Warpath> Monobi, shhh :|
[19:34] <Monobi> And is paralyzed until Nov 4th
[19:34] <Sceptre> it's because of the green frenzy
[19:34] <Shanel> Monobi: Our government is a conservative minority government.
[19:34] <Avruch> Scetoaux: Pfft, if it turns out he slept with a prostitute like Eliot Spitzer or a Senate page or something, he's done ;p
[19:34] <Monobi> And on Nov 5th he stands up and walks home
[19:34] <Warpath> XD
[19:34] <Monobi> But not until that date
[19:34] <Sceptre> Monobi: there has been a lame president before
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[19:34] <Monobi> And, hopefully McCain is in the car with him
[19:34] <Monobi> And is paralyzed too
[19:34] <Sceptre> George Bush - OH!
[19:34] <Warpath> yeah his name was Nixon :)
[19:34] <Monobi> And Ron Paul is the republican nomination
[19:35] <Shanel> Ewww.
[19:35] <Monobi> *nominee whatever
[19:35] <Scetoaux> Ron Paul isn't libertarian
[19:35] <Monobi> Ron Paul is the bestest
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[19:35] <Shanel> Purestrain Gold.
[19:35] <Scetoaux> I find his views inconsistent with libertarian ideals
[19:35] <Shanel> WTF is that.
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[19:35] <Warpath> religion and politics go side by side :)
[19:35] <Scetoaux> They're not as bad as Bob Barr, who's even further removed from libertarianism
[19:35] <Scetoaux> But it's pretty bad
[19:35] <Avruch> It'd probably go from McCain to, uh, Romney
[19:35] <Monobi> Shanel, the solution to the economy inflations
[19:35] <Avruch> Woohoo Romney...
[19:36] <Monobi> Avruch, lies
[19:36] <Monobi> Oh, I changed my story
[19:36] <Scetoaux> It's highly unlikely
[19:36] <Monobi> McCain, Obama, Romney, and Clinton are in a bus
[19:36] <Scetoaux> That anything is going to happen between now and Nov. 4
[19:36] <Monobi> And they are all paralyzed until Nov 4th
[19:36] <Shanel> Except for it being total poop.
[19:36] <Avruch> and it crashes because it has 40,000 secret service agents on it and is surrounded by 12 million reporters?
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[19:36] <SteveCrossin> Monobi: no one will vote for your candidate
[19:36] <Scetoaux> See
[19:36] <Monobi> SteveCrossin, of course they will
[19:36] <Majorly> Monobi, you are so cruel
[19:36] <Sceptre> Scetoaux: except for Leeds Utd winning a football match :p
[19:37] <SteveCrossin> oh right
[19:37] <SteveCrossin> 200 people
[19:37] <Monobi> Oh
[19:37] <SteveCrossin> lol
[19:37] <Warpath> i will vote for a dog instead :|
[19:37] <Scetoaux> If nothing else the excessive amounts of secret service agents would cushion the candidates
[19:37] <SteveCrossin> lulz
[19:37] <Sceptre> Avruch: and it turns out that it's really a CIA conspiracy :p
[19:37] <Avruch> Sceptre: CIA, MI5 and PETA ;p
[19:37] <Sceptre> Avruch: PeTA killed Diana?
[19:37] <Monobi> Thankfully few people in this channel are Americans
[19:38] <Sceptre> I've heard about the CIA and MI5 being part of the conspiracy...
[19:38] <SteveCrossin> meh
[19:38] <Scetoaux> really?
[19:38] <Avruch> Sceptre: Twice. The girl in the car was a replacement Diana.
[19:38] <Warpath> no the KBG ;)
[19:38] <Scetoaux> It is an english wikipedia
[19:38] <Sceptre> but not the People for eating Tasty Animals
[19:38] <Monobi> SteveCrossin would never last in a semi-free market environment
[19:38] <Scetoaux> 66% of English speakers are American, I believe
[19:38] <SteveCrossin> ugh your 14yo politics
[19:38] <Avruch> Scetoaux: Seems unlikely.
[19:38] <Warpath> Scetoaux, the rest british :P
[19:38] <Monobi> SteveCrossin, good thing I'm not 14yo
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[19:38] <Scetoaux> lol
[19:38] <Monobi> Hah
[19:38] <SteveCrossin> oh really
[19:39] <Warpath> Monobi is totally 14 ;)
[19:39] <Avruch> Maybe 66% of native English speakers...
[19:39] <Malinaccier> :(
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[19:39] <Malinaccier> ;(
[19:39] <Scetoaux> Or maybe Americans jsut don't speak English
[19:39] <Scetoaux> It's far enough removed Lo
[19:39] <Scetoaux> :p
[19:39] <SteveCrossin> you and your sixth grade Michael Moore logic, Monobi
[19:39] <SteveCrossin> XDDD
[19:39] <Sceptre> Habla Franspanol?
[19:39] <Scetoaux> lol
[19:39] <SteveCrossin> Sceptre: lulz
[19:39] <Scetoaux> Je parle francais.
[19:39] <Sceptre> yeah, spare us it :p
[19:39] <Avruch> Whoa, a 14 year old in 6th grade?
[19:40] <SteveCrossin> from 24 :p
[19:40] <Avruch> Corky!
[19:40] <Sceptre> actually, for uberlingua-quotage
[19:40] <Sceptre> Sprechen Franspanol, och aye?
[19:40] <SteveCrossin> lulz
[19:40] <Monobi> SteveCrossin, Micheal Moore is evil
[19:40] <Avruch> Luckily, no one in here is old enough to get the Corky reference but me ;p
[19:40] <Shanel> Michael
[19:40] <SteveCrossin> Monobi is eviller
[19:40] <Monobi> Haha, I'm good
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[19:40] <Malinaccier> Avruch should do teh RFA
[19:40] <Kerotan> I am already tired of IRC.
[19:41] * Cream is serious about making a RFA
[19:41] * Warpath too
[19:41] <Avruch> Malinaccier: Someday
[19:41] <Majorly> Cream, do not jooke
[19:41] <Scetoaux> lol
[19:41] <Sceptre> Cream: you know what RFAs are, right?
[19:41] <Warpath> tired of IRC i.e :|
[19:41] <Scetoaux> I used to have this urging to nominate someone
[19:41] <Cream> Warpath, i'll oppose
[19:41] <Sceptre> They're a type of business
[19:41] <Scetoaux> Not anymore though
[19:41] <Sceptre> I forget what kind :p
[19:41] <Cream> Sceptre, yup
[19:41] <Warpath> i said Tired of IRC :|
[19:41] <Cream> Request for adminship
[19:41] <Scetoaux> Avruch
[19:41] <Scetoaux> I hate to say this
[19:41] <Scetoaux> but your userpage hurts my eyes
[19:41] <Avruch> hehe
[19:41] <Avruch> does it?
[19:42] <Scetoaux> But then again I'm using a CRT at 60hz in a not very well-lit room
[19:42] <Scetoaux> So you're hardly to blame
[19:42] <Sceptre> my userpage is the Mona Lisa of userpages, apparently
[19:42] <Majorly> there's a new aftershave... called London
[19:42] <Majorly> ...
[19:42] <Avruch> It works for me, all I use it for is drop down menus of links I sometimes use and don't want to look for
[19:42] <Avruch> Plus some userboxes, just for kicks ;p
[19:42] <Warpath> there is a new toilet paper called somalia ;)
[19:42] <Sceptre> perfume ads annoy me
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[19:42] <Sceptre> they have some irrelevant and surreal imagery
[19:42] <Avruch> Warpath: cruel joke?
[19:42] <Scetoaux> See
[19:43] <Scetoaux> what's this
[19:43] <Warpath> :p
[19:43] <Sceptre> than a femal voice whispering "Foobar"
[19:43] <Scetoaux> I report someone to be blocked for creating inappropriate pages after tagging all their pages for speedy deletion
[19:43] <Scetoaux> yet the blocking admin doesn't go one step further and delete the pages
[19:43] <Warpath> Avruch,  why use the KBG symbol on your userpage? :)
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[19:44] <Warpath> Scetoaux, lol a blocknist :P
[19:44] <Avruch> Technically, the hammer and scythe image isn't only the KGM ;p
[19:44] <Majorly> Sceptre, they hardly advertise the actual product
[19:44] <Warpath> only misza and east718 are deletionists :P
[19:45] <Avruch> Warpath: and otherwise, cause it looked neat in the image I found ;p
[19:45] <Majorly> I dislike admins who are only bot
[19:45] <Majorly> s
[19:45] <east718|away> Wafulz: :o
[19:45] * Malinaccier likes being a bot
[19:45] <east718|away> *Warpath
[19:45] <Avruch> Its a good joke, if you ask me
[19:46] <Avruch> Mixing like the secret police aspect of the USSR with the "cabal" mythos of Wikipedia
[19:46] <Warpath> Majorly,  yup ;P
[19:46] <Avruch> and the "Army of One" slogan of the US Army
[19:46] * Cream kicks Warpath in the balls
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[19:46] SpamTunes started.
[19:46] -> *#teens* np : Clarence "Frogman" Henry - Ain't Got No Home 2:21 128kbit/s
[19:47] * Warpath played American Army before :)
[19:47] -> *#teens* np : Mildred Bailey And Her Swing Band - I'd Love To Take Orders From You 2:41 128kbit/s
[19:47] <Warpath> Cream, don;t be jealous since you don't have any ;)
[19:48] <Scetoaux> lol
[19:48] <Cream> :P
[19:48] <Avruch> Warpath: Yea I played it, not too bad but pretty choppy on my PC
[19:48] <Scetoaux> but seriously though
[19:48] <Cream> wanna see?
[19:48] <Monobi> Cream, GOATSE ?
[19:48] <Cream> no
[19:48] <Cream> my balls
[19:48] <Avruch> "Jesus personally got me Burger King once" most recent strangest RfA comment ever
[19:48] -> *#teens* np : Turbinator Two - Come On Use Your Brain (Smell This) 1:19 98kbit/s
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[19:49] Clones detected from pool-71-187-66-153.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net: 8 Mm50 Mm40_
[19:49] -> *#teens* np : Batilda & Guano - Cave Thing 1:41 94kbit/s
[19:49] <animum> [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/CloudNine#S19]] takes the cake
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[19:50] <Scetoaux> jesus
[19:50] <Scetoaux> that is a long support
[19:50] <animum> But it's very funny
[19:50] <animum> Well, satirically humorous.
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[19:51] <Pilotguy> Hello Cream
[19:51] * Cream np : En Lobe - Whatta Brain 1:43 98kbit/s
[19:51] <Pilotguy> Have you been behaving yourself today?
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[19:51] <Cream> yes
[19:51] <Cream> why?
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[19:51] * Schrodinger_Cat laps up cream
[19:52] <Pilotguy> Cream: Just making sure
[19:52] <Scetoaux> Yeah
[19:52] <Scetoaux> I've seen a lot of Gurch's comments
[19:52] * masterpersona is now known as Shanel
[19:52] <Pilotguy> You always behave yourself I just didn't want to make sure you had deviated from that
[19:52] <Pilotguy> erm
[19:52] <Scetoaux> I didn't take him very seriously until I learned it was he that made Huggle
[19:52] * Pilotguy proofreads that last part
[19:52] SpamTunes started.
[19:52] * Cream np : Riskay - Smell Yo Dick 3:38 128kbit/s
[19:53] <Pilotguy> Ok
[19:53] <Pilotguy> I just WANTED to makre sure you HADN'T deviated from that
[19:53] <Pilotguy> There we go
[19:53] <Scetoaux> :Where the nomination really stands out is with the nominator's description of the edit count as "riveting". 9161 may at first appear to be a fairly boring number, but not only is it prime, you can transpose the first and second and the third and fourth digits and then rotate it clockwise through half a turn and it looks the same as it did before! Clearly the candidate should be commended for this excellent achievement, which m
[19:53] <Scetoaux> Excuse my odd usage of colons as quotation marks
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[19:54] <Cream> brb
[19:54] <Cream> writing a FA
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[19:54] <Schrodinger_Cat> Scetoaux: Heh.  It would be really special if the number was also prime when you reversed its digits.
[19:54] <Scetoaux> lol
[19:54] <Scetoaux> 2
[19:55] <Scetoaux> :p
[19:55] <Howcheng> i finally got around to putting Weezer's "Maladroit" in my computer and boy was it disappointing
[19:55] <Cream> I got another copyright question
[19:56] <Scetoaux> I've got to go
[19:56] SpamTunes stopped (iTunes is not playing anything).
[19:56] <Scetoaux> I'll see you guys later
[19:56] <Cream> toodles
[19:56] <Scetoaux> :)
[19:56] <Malinaccier> Bye Scetoaux
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[19:57] <Cream> hmm
[19:57] <Cream> that's a noodle scratcher
[19:58] <Howcheng> Cream: shoot
[19:58] <Cream> I want to upload pics
[19:58] <Cream> from 1963 to 1966
[19:59] <Cream> and they have multiple copyrights
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[19:59] <Cream> usually
[19:59] <Howcheng> are they from the U.S.?
[19:59] <Cream> nope
[19:59] <Cream> Canada
[20:00] <Cream> Expo 67
[20:00] <Howcheng> then they are copyrighted to 70 years after the photographer's death
[20:01] <Cream> ah
[20:01] <Cream> It's a world's fair
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[20:08] <Cream> hmm
[20:08] <Cream> i guess this article needs moar pix
[20:10] <Enok|Walker> [[Toilet-related injury]] ??? I agree
[20:10] <SteveCrossin> LOL
[20:11] * Smiythe lols
[20:11] * Cream titters
[20:11] * Smiythe shoots cream
[20:11] <Smiythe> with a FN FAL
[20:12] <Smiythe> Im the last man laughing
[20:13] * Malinaccier laughs last
[20:13] <Sceptre> hey, anyone want a laugh?
[20:13] * Cream kills Smiythe
[20:13] <Sceptre> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Sceptre%2C_Sxeptomaniac%2C_SirFozzie%2C_B#Response
[20:13] <Cream> a cheap laugh?
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[20:15] <Smiythe> Twas funny
[20:15] <Smiythe> kinda
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[20:15] <Warpath> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=There_is_no_spoon. possibly another  grawp sleper O_O
[20:15] <Warpath> sleeper*
[20:15] <Cream> on Sceptre
[20:15] <Cream> do you remember this?
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[20:15] <Cream> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Sceptre
[20:15] <Sceptre> Cream: yes
[20:15] * Cream chuckles
[20:16] <Smiythe> Anyone seen Ziggy lately?
[20:16] <Cream> nope
[20:17] <Cream> he'll turn up
[20:17] <Cream> anyways
[20:17] <Cream> it's FailViper
[20:17] * smoddy (n=smoddy@wikipedia/smoddy) Quit ("res ipsa loquitur" )
[20:18] <Sceptre> yay
[20:18] <Sceptre> I've got a vexatious RFC against me!
[20:18] <Cream> yay!
[20:18] <Juliancolton> Can somebody help me with something?
[20:19] <Juliancolton> [[2006 Atlantic hurricane season]], the TFA, is screwed up
[20:19] <Smiythe> wat
[20:19] <Juliancolton> And it's not showing in the history
[20:19] <Smiythe> I can attack hackers attacking wikipedia
[20:19] <Smiythe> If that helps
[20:19] <Juliancolton> Ah, it's fixed
[20:19] <Juliancolton> No it's not
[20:20] <Juliancolton> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Atlantic_hurricane_season
[20:21] <KingsOfHearts> people hack wikipedia?
[20:21] <Smiythe> IDK
[20:21] <Smiythe> I just can
[20:22] <Smiythe> Whip up a nice virus
[20:22] <Smiythe> to screw
[20:22] <Smiythe> up
[20:22] <Smiythe> their
[20:22] <Not_the_NSA> Cream:  22:42, 12 January 2006 Francs2000 (Talk | contribs) (→Sceptre: closing - 80% consensus)
[20:22] <Not_the_NSA> LOL
[20:22] <Smiythe> computer
[20:22] <Sceptre> Not_the_NSA: WHAT'S SO FUNNY?
[20:22] <Sceptre> </caps>
[20:23] <Smiythe> Sceptre, WAT!!!
[20:23] <Smiythe> I DON GET IT
[20:23] <Not_the_NSA> Sceptre: The fact that he based in purely on the percentage.
[20:23] <Sceptre> that was back in 2000
[20:23] <Not_the_NSA> Sceptre: And the fact htat 80% was passing. (back then of course then).
[20:23] <KingsOfHearts> how do you hack wikipedia?
[20:23] <MBisanz> sceptre I see you've been called to answer
[20:23] <Sceptre> 2006
[20:24] <Smiythe> KingsOfHearts, DDOS ATTACK
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[20:24] <Sceptre> MBisanz: the RFC?
[20:24] <Sceptre> I don't give a fuck about it
[20:24] <MBisanz> yes, it has 1 certifier so far
[20:24] <Smiythe> Meh.
[20:24] <MBisanz> 1 more and its banhammer time!
[20:24] <Smiythe> Too lazy
[20:24] <Sceptre> MBisanz: not really
[20:24] <MBisanz> on which side though I'm not sure
[20:24] <KingsOfHearts> ddos would work on wikipedia?
[20:24] <Smiythe> mabee
[20:24] <Sceptre> MBisanz: they're constantly weaking their case
[20:25] <KingsOfHearts> I doubt that
[20:25] <Smiythe> I dont know about their server
[20:25] <Smiythe> well.
[20:25] <Smiythe> There are other ways
[20:25] <Enok|Walker> what's an Ass-Lobottomy
[20:25] <Sceptre> I've been wanting to quote Frank Lapidus for a long long time...
[20:25] <Smiythe> What method would u attack wiki with King?
[20:25] <MBisanz> i know sceptre go nom the ID wikiproject for deletion
[20:25] <Enok|Walker> wait what
[20:26] <Sceptre> MBisanz: the project's fine, it's the people behind it
[20:26] <Smiythe> Ghaaa...
[20:26] <Enok|Walker> are you planning a wikimutiny or something
[20:26] <Smiythe> Anyone know any other boards Ziggy is on?
[20:26] <KingsOfHearts> Shock pics i guess
[20:26] <Smiythe> ...
[20:26] <KingsOfHearts> but i would never do that
[20:26] <Smiythe> It is open
[20:27] <KingsOfHearts> ever
[20:27] <Smiythe> so
[20:27] <Smiythe> why
[20:27] <Smiythe> hack
[20:27] <Smiythe> when
[20:27] <Smiythe> you
[20:27] <Smiythe> can
[20:27] <Smiythe> screw it up
[20:27] <Warpath> :|
[20:27] <MBisanz> can we please merge [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Sceptre, Sxeptomaniac, SirFozzie, B]] and [[WP:RFAR/C68-SV-FM-JzG-TS-Listuser/All]] to make the arbcom's job harder?
[20:27] <Warpath> don't flood
[20:27] <Enok|Walker> hacking sounds 1337er
[20:27] <Sceptre> go on ;)
[20:27] <Smiythe> Then they IP BAN YOU
[20:27] <KingsOfHearts> Proxy
[20:27] <Smiythe> And thats easy to get around
[20:27] <Smiythe> yes, proxy
[20:27] <Smiythe> or just change your IP
[20:28] <KingsOfHearts> that evntually gets banned
[20:28] <Smiythe> through a request to your ISP via a message
[20:28] * Howcheng (i=d14a603e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77a77d9382d9be8f) Quit ("mibbit.com: bye" )
[20:28] <KingsOfHearts> ur range
[20:28] <KingsOfHearts> gets banned
[20:28] <Cream> heh
[20:29] <Smiythe> Meh. Then that sucks
[20:29] <Smiythe> Change ISPS OR SOMETHING
[20:29] <Smiythe> I DONT KNOW!?!?!
[20:29] <KingsOfHearts> thats why i dont vandalize stuff its not worth the time
[20:29] <Smiythe> Hey, I wouldentt
[20:29] <KingsOfHearts> what do you gain?
[20:30] <Smiythe> Im just saying hypothetically what someone could do
[20:30] <Smiythe> :)
[20:30] * Alexfusco5 is now known as Alexfusco5|Away
[20:30] <Warpath> MBisanz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/There_is_no_spoon. watch him
[20:30] <KingsOfHearts> Shock pics are the only real way I can think of
[20:30] <MBisanz> why me?
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[20:30] <Warpath> only admin here, rest are trolls :(
[20:31] * Vito (n=user@unaffiliated/vito) Quit (Connection timed out )
[20:31] * kibble (n=kibble@wikimedia/Cbrown1023) Quit ("sleep" )
[20:31] <Monobi> Warpath, O_O
[20:31] <MBisanz> what is he doing wrong?
[20:31] <KingsOfHearts> Im not a troll.
[20:31] <Warpath>  a grawp sleeper most probably
[20:31] <KingsOfHearts> what grawp
[20:31] <MBisanz> then flag down smoddy
[20:32] <KingsOfHearts> *whats
[20:32] <Tinkleheimer> WBOSITG, did I mention you have the best username ever?
[20:32] <Warpath> MBisanz,  autoconfirm is how many days>?
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[20:33] <KingsOfHearts> (Warpath    a grawp sleeper most probably) ??
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[20:33] <MBisanz> 4 days and 10 edits
[20:33] <Warpath> MBisanz, you have your 10 edits :P
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[20:34] <MBisanz> i can't fathom how http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/There_is_no_spoon is grawp
[20:34] <MBisanz> it is autoconfirmed, was registered in 2004, etc
[20:34] * Tinkleheimer is still waiting to see if his DYK Hook(s) are okay.
[20:34] <Warpath>     * 20:29, June 1, 2008 There is no spoon. (Talk | contribs) Account created automatically
[20:35] <Warpath> i think it was changed to 10 days O_O
[20:35] <Tinkleheimer> Why is my knuckle bloody? Did I go on a rampage in my sleep?
[20:35] <KingsOfHearts> what is grawp?
[20:35] <Juliancolton> :O
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[20:35] <KingsOfHearts> who is grawp
[20:35] <KingsOfHearts> is he like a vandal?
[20:35] <Juliancolton> A vandal who has become part of Wikipedia's culture
[20:35] <ffm> KingsOfHearts: mhm.
[20:35] <Juliancolton> Like Willy on Wheels
[20:35] <ffm> KingsOfHearts: Read, WoW like.
[20:36] <Tinkleheimer> What is a highscore, is that bad? Did I break the machine?
[20:36] <KingsOfHearts> what did he do?
[20:36] <MBisanz> o i missed the period
[20:36] <Soxred93> Page-move vandalism
[20:36] <Soxred93> And he stil lcontinues
[20:36] <KingsOfHearts> You have his original ip/
[20:37] <KingsOfHearts> ?
[20:37] <Luna-San> Oh. That period makes it look *way* more Grawpy.
[20:37] <Luna-San> I was trying to figure that out, too. x.x
[20:37] <Soxred93> As far as I know, he's the only pagemove vandal we are constantly on the lookout for, the only one who is a real concern.
[20:37] <Warpath> KingsOfHearts, you are yourself a troll, so shut up or I will ban you :|
[20:37] <KingsOfHearts> Can you check user the original for me?
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[20:37] <KingsOfHearts> wtf?
[20:38] <KingsOfHearts> I have made consitintly good edit for wikipeida and
[20:38] <Enok|Walker> how come all the trolls come to this channel to troll it up
[20:38] <KingsOfHearts> omfg im not a troll on wikipedia.
[20:38] <KingsOfHearts> :(
[20:39] <Enok|Walker> I mean in general this place is whineville population trollz
[20:39] <MBisanz> User:KingOfHearts ?
[20:39] <Warpath> Enok|Walker,  no idea ;)
[20:39] <KingsOfHearts> yes
[20:39] <KingsOfHearts> check me ive wrote two articles and they both kickass
[20:40] <MBisanz> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=KingOfHearts&namespace=&year=&month=-1
[20:40] <MBisanz> nope
[20:40] <animum> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=King+of+Hearts&namespace=&year=&month=-1 ?
[20:40] <KingsOfHearts> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/KingsOfHearts
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[20:41] <KingsOfHearts> thats what I thought
[20:41] * Chetblong|away is now known as AAAAChetblong|aw
[20:41] <ffm> Does MW log viewing of deelted contribs?
[20:41] <MBisanz> no
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[20:42] * AAAAChetblong|aw is now known as AA^
[20:42] * Malinaccier7 is now known as Malinaccier
[20:42] <MBisanz> hence why I had to write a policy so global admins dont misuse it
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[20:42] <MBisanz> actually MW does not log it, but the apache server does
[20:42] <Symith> woah...
[20:42] <ffm> MBisanz: Ah, you wrote WP:GRU?
[20:42] <MBisanz> so yes, if you misuse it, we can find out and hurt you
[20:42] <ffm> MBisanz: uh, you just said you couldn't find out.
[20:42] <TenPoundHammer> wtf?
[20:42] <ffm> 20:42  MBisanz$ no
[20:42] <KingsOfHearts> So can you please give me the ip of grawp?
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[20:43] <ffm> MBisanz: oh.
[20:43] * ffm didnt' read.
[20:43] <MBisanz> I started the discussion at [[WT:ADMIN]] to create this policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Global_rights_usage
[20:43] <MBisanz> and added a major part of it
[20:44] <Warpath> grawp is Not *A* person, its an organisation :|
[20:44] <MBisanz> if it were not for me, we wouldnt have a way of dealing with global admins
[20:44] <Enok|Walker> is it possible to abuse Aleve
[20:44] <ffm> Enok|Walker: yes.
[20:44] <Symith> Enok|Walker, yes
[20:44] <KingsOfHearts> give me the original please
[20:44] <ffm> Enok|Walker: but [[WP:NOT]] medical.
[20:44] <Enok|Walker> cool brb
[20:44] <Symith> ffm, ye beat me to it!!
[20:44] <Symith> .....
[20:44] <Symith> Enok|Walker was a good man
[20:45] <Symith> He died of painkiller overdose in
[20:45] <Symith> his home
[20:46] <ffm> MBisanz: /me reports MBisanz for making threats of physical harm.
[20:46] <Symith> .........Can you get high of your own nerochemicals?
[20:46] <MBisanz> its called [[WP:TOV]] ffm
[20:46] <Symith> Like adrenaline?
[20:46] <MBisanz> bstone runs it
[20:46] <MBisanz> i'm friends with bstone
[20:46] <Symith> Then end up addicted to working out or something?
[20:46] <ffm> MBisanz: So am I.
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[20:49] <ffm> MBisanz: "Hunt me down"? Will WMF's ninjas come through my windows like in http://xkcd.com/225/ ?
[20:49] <MBisanz> apparently FFM is not up on the latest arbcom ruling
[20:50] * [hmwith] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hmwith/x-109832) has left #wikipedia-en
[20:50] <MBisanz> Administrators are authorized to use any and all means at their disposal to ensure that every Wikipedia article is in full compliance with the letter and spirit of the biographies of living persons policy.
[20:51] <ffm> MBisanz: that's what they all say. Linky?
[20:51] <ffm> MBisanz: remember that sarcasm is _really_ helpful.
[20:52] <MBisanz> heh
[20:52] <MBisanz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Footnoted_quotes/Proposed_decision#Special_enforcement_on_biographies_of_living_persons
[20:52] <ffm> wtf!
[20:53] * ffm writes an angry letter to jimbo.
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[20:53] <Wizardman> juliancolton: done w/ your request. Do i get a support now? :)
Session Close: Mon Jun 09 20:53:22 2008

Session Start: Mon Jun 09 20:53:38 2008
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
[20:53] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
[20:53] * Topic is 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Status: Up | Please observe [[m:IRC guidelines]] | To get op attention, join #wikimedia-ops or type !op followed by your request. | For an admin *in an emergency*, type !admin before a request. | No public logging. | SUL now enabled for all users! Info at [[Special:MergeAccount]] | Board elections are now open.  See [[Special:BoardVote]] to vote. '
[20:53] * Set by NotASpy on Fri Jun 06 21:29:46
[20:53] <Cream> Missed me?
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[20:53] <KingsOfHearts> hello cream
[20:53] <Malinaccier> Cream: no
[20:54] <Malinaccier> Cream: :p
[20:54] <ffm> Cream: Nopers.
[20:54] <Cream> o rly
[20:54] * MBisanz huggles ffm
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[20:54] <MBisanz> can't wait till he's ana dmin
[20:54] <Juliancolton> Wizardman: Lemme see
[20:55] <Malinaccier> MBisanz: did you find his RFA page?
[20:55] <MBisanz> whose ffm?
[20:55] <MBisanz> wasnt looking actually
[20:55] <Malinaccier> lol
[20:56] <Wizardman> ?
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[20:56] <Wizardman> wtf solar poseidon. You're goin down, I'm gonna win teh editcountitis challenge!
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[20:57] <Wizardman> almost caught up on the fac comments. phew
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[20:57] <KingsOfHearts> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_R._Massoni&rcid=223327846
[20:57] <KingsOfHearts> no sources
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[20:58] <Wizardman> sources or not, clearly non-notable
[20:58] <Juliancolton> Wizardman: :)
[20:58] <Wizardman> uh oh, it's thunderstorming here
[20:59] <KingsOfHearts> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_hody
[20:59] <KingsOfHearts> another
[20:59] <KingsOfHearts> no sources
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[21:00] <KingsOfHearts> numerous grammatical errors..
[21:01] * Alexfusco5|Away is now known as Alexfusco5
[21:01] <Wizardman> Well, one satisfied, yay ^_^ a few more to go
[21:01] * ffm may be away, so if I don't reply...
[21:01] <KingsOfHearts> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sao_Domingos_(Guinea-Bissau) what about articles like this?
[21:01] <KingsOfHearts> are they keepable
[21:01] <KingsOfHearts> ?
[21:02] <KingsOfHearts>  /me is cool
[21:02] <KingsOfHearts> me/ is cool
[21:02] <Malinaccier>  /me
[21:03] <KingsOfHearts> k
[21:03] <Wizardman>  /moi is cool
[21:03] * KingsOfHearts is cool
[21:03] <KingsOfHearts> ya
[21:03] <Malinaccier>  actually
[21:03] <Enok|Walker> I imagine that's inherently keepable because it's analogous to, say, a US state county, although it obviously needs mass expansion :/
[21:03] <Malinaccier>  /moi est cool
[21:04] <KingsOfHearts> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sao_Domingos_(Guinea-Bissau) I will get that article featured
Session Close: Mon Jun 09 21:04:20 2008

More of these will appear as time passes.

Not Wikipedia: The College Rightwing Goonery of Atomwaffen Division and Turning Point USA

In the aftermath of the near-twentieth school shooting we have had this year, we thought it would be good to discuss two of the Right-wing groups harassing the colleges and universities, the tiny but murderous Atomwaffen Division and the pointless but ubiquitous Turning Point USA, aka "Charlie Kirk's Twitter Meme Factory."

When the Alt-Right meets Universal Order 

Atomwaffen Division ("Atomic Weapons Division" in English) is a tiny group of maybe 80 members spread across the US in possibly 20 cells in 23 states; interestingly they stay out of the old-timey Ku Klux Klan stomping ground of Pennsylvania, but they have members in New Jersey (according to the ProPublica article we linked to); possibly the Klan has told them to back off, or maybe they were crowded out by the 40 hate groups already working in Penn's Woods. (Believe it or not, there are Yooper AWD members!)  Atomwaffen Division has only been operating since October, 2015 more-or-less, but they have already killed five people, all in "lone wolf" attacks favored by Tom Metzger, who promoted the concept of Nazi/Klan members going out on lone killing vendettas so that the groups they were a part of were not dragged into the aftermath (usually the killer resigns from the group beforehand; AWD members are too new and underground for that.) So far, the cells haven't taken to violent crime to buy better weapons in the Brüder Schweigen ("Silent Brotherhood" aka The Order) tradition, because that group didn't last very long as bank robbing terrorists/assassins of Denver radio talkshow host Alan Berg - the group began in 1983 and were all in handcuffs in 1984, with founder Robert Jay Matthews burned alive in a barn fire during a brutal shootout on Whidbey Island in Washington state. Something like that may come, or the group is gunned down trying to blow up a power plant or a dam, fighting "The System" endlessly derided by James Mason (not that one) in his 500-plus page tome SIEGE (1987?)

                             
Mason (seen above as looked while he finished SIEGE in the 1980s on the left, and more recently on the right) has been involved in Nazi politics since the age of 14; he was involved with George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party as a young man right before Party founder/führer was killed by his own protege John Patler in an Arlington, Virginia strip mall parking lot during 1967 - Mason would leave a square foot white swastika marking the spot where Rockwell fell and repaint it occasionally during the 1970s-80s. He joined the successor of the ANP, the National Socialist White People's Party (yes, they had to change the name of the "Illinois Nazis" in The Blues Brothers to the "American Socialist White People's Party" to keep the NSWPP from suing), but the times were changing even for American Nazis, and Mason left the NSWPP Joseph Tomassi's National Socialist Liberation Front, formerly the "youth wing" of the other organization. The NSLF was radically different than it's parent: no Brownshirt uniforms, no building a mass-movement. Instead there was a lot of leaflet propaganda in the The Minutemen's (Robert DePugh's anti-Communist group) tradition - threatening, simple, and effective. SIEGE was the mimeographed newsletter of the NSLF, who all wore jeans and longsleve workshirts, and prepared for an underground war against that '70s boogeyman, The System (which '80s Klansmen, Nazis, and proto-militia members would redub the "Zionist Occupation Government"), using bombings, murder of bi-racial couples, other violence. Tomassi was dead by the mid-1970s, and the NSLF membership called it quits in the early 1980s. From 1977 to the mid-1980's Mason cranked out issues of the newsletter, which was recombobulated into the book, a copy of which we own.

SIEGE is a turgid sit of a book, like reading Martin Heidegger's notoriously antisemitic Black Notebooks without Heidegger's gift for copying Nietzsche's writing style. Luckily there are lots of photos and reproductions of NSLF handbills.

The version I got has the World Trade Center wreckage after the towers fell as the dustjacket. This sort of property damage done by terrorism is a motif of Mason's.

Includes the Nazi SS "lighting runes" as insignia on the dustjacket flap. Without the cover, the book is just black with the title on the spine.

 This version was edited by well-known Industrial musician Michael J. Moynihan (Blood Axis) under the pseudonym "Michael M. Jenkins." Moynihan has a long history of writing on "Traditionalist" subjects, SIEGE was the first book he produced himself after writing Lords of Chaos (a history of Norwegian Death Metal) for Feral Press in the late 1990s. He is not the only one; Boyd Rice of the one-man Industrial band NON has written books on his Nazi philosophy....We bring up Rice because both he and Moynihan had been members of Anton Szandor LaVey's Church of Satan in the 1980s, and through the world of Right-wing C-band satellite TV (Rice and Moynihan had been interviewed by Tom Metzger) Moynihan heard of James Mason. If it wasn't there, then somebody was mailing him SIEGE newsletters.

The publisher is a vanity press of sorts run by Moynihan. The only other book they published was And Time Rolls On, a 2007 volume of interviews with the noted Nazi loon-lady Savitri Devi (Maximiani Julia Portas), who got Subhas Chandra Bose to work with the Japanese, spied on the British, and was a promoter of Nazism (with interesting Hindu concepts brought into National Socialism by Julius Evola even before the end of the war) until she died in the early 1980s. She keyed Miguel Serrano into the world of Kali Yuga. The "black sun" is a component of Occultic Nazism taken from Madame Blavasky's writings; it has numerous meanings - negation, "an opposite pole", a hidden power and regeneration source, etc.

I have the creepy feeling my copy was touched by Moynihan.

Like most neo-Nazis, Mason was involved in multiple groups at the same time. Many groups allow this because it allows they groups to look larger than than the really are; also if you betray one, the rest come after you. Notice that even when he is "dressed down" as a NSLF member he still looks like he is in an army. It should be noted that the NSLF stole its name from the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam, a group known to millions of Americans as "Charlie" or the "Viet Cong", the latter being an abbreviation of the term "Vietnamese Communist."

One of the small posters made by Joseph Tommasi, leader of the Front.

Tommasi himself. The use of the M-16 in the logo is a Vietnam-era touch. Tommasi died a year after he started the NSLF, shot by a guard at the NSWPP headquarters in El Monte, California for showing him "the finger" while driving past. He was hit in the head.

Use of Xerox art was common in NSLF propaganda, as it was with a lot of radical groups at the time. The figure on the bottom might be a still of "Leatherface" from the Texas Chain-Saw Massacre. Never forget that these flyers were going up right after (or during) the Symbionese Liberation Army had its run and the Zodiac Killer was stalking the land.

This bit of nastiness is a product of James Mason; the "revolutionary government" is the NSLF, after a takeover of the United States. Concepts from the handbill would later appear in The Turner Diaries (1978); shooting/hanging "race traitors" is a common theme in US neo-Nazi propaganda, part of the heritage from the Ku Klux Klan.

....And this is where the love of Charles Miles Manson begins, 1977. Mason had begun researching the Manson case and his "Family", discovering the truth - Manson was not a hippie, he was a racist in drag, and the murders his group had committed were there to start a race war in America, and that Manson's group would be the survivors. There begins the trail that leads.....

....to Universal Order, the concept Atomwaffen Division considers neat. Leaderless resistance, hidden cells, endless terrorism, attempts to create "temporary Nazi zones", recreating the "political soldier" concept tried and abandoned by the British far-Right in the Thatcher '80s, overthrowing everything so that a new Hitler-type can run things, triggering college students with stark propaganda left on bulletin boards, etc. Charlie doesn't have to live inside the Universal Order, he's dead.

So why do I have SIEGE? I picked it up after reading about Moynihan in Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke's Black Sun (2002) and finding more information online, back when a Texan was president and it seemed like the farthest-Right was falling to bits in America (Hal Turner an FBI snitch, Pat Buchanan in the wilderness, the militias outside of Mormon crazies gone, the GOP big enough to take the footsoldiers in and give them something else to be angry about), but it was all a smokescreen - they were biding time, and now they are "back."

 

Note the use of "internet meme" lettering in the DPRK flyer above; following the grand traditions of 4chan's /pol/ subforum, shock and disorientation are tools to be used if the wielder is smart. The one below is from early on, and is a simple Photoshop job on a SIEGE poster that circulated during the Bicentennial - the only things that are theirs are the Molotov cocktail, the Waffen-SS style AWD shield, their logo and URL (now defunct).

These are dangerous people and I do not see any of this ending well.

And Now For Something Slightly Different: Clean-Cut College Goons

Very much in the tradition of William F. Buckley's Young Americans for Freedom (in that the project is actually paid for by wealthy outsiders), Turning Point USA was founded by West Point rejectee Charlie Kirk back in 2012, and TPUSA hit "wingnut welfare" early on* and now there are allegedly a thousand chapters in colleges and high schools in America. And they are doing every trick concocted by conservative forebears like Karl Rove, James O'Keefe, the insane Right-Zionist website Masada2000 (thankfully defunct), and CampusNonsense: spying on professors, creating watch lists of professors, mocking any student who is left of Genghis Khan, etc.  Of course publications like The New Yorker began investigating TPUSA the minute it moved out of the conservative ghetto and they found this bit of charm:

They also discovered that TPUSA was rigging campus elections to the Right by paying for campaigns. Members of the student governments at Auburn University, two Arkansas colleges, the University of California at Los Angeles, Arizona State University and Northern Arizona University and the University of Arizona were involved, among thirty others, in this scheme. Charlie Kirk has undermined the concept of student government on American college campuses, and the goon never went to college.

The war also happens online, and it's here where TPUSA blows it the most as Alex Nichols pointed out on The Outline last year. Awful Twitter memes and styles are brought back from the dead such as the "Kermit drinking tea" meme which was a thing in 2014, but they made the tweet in 2017.

As Nichols points out, these tweets are there to get young people into conservatism, and instead they are forwarded and loved by Online Grandparents. Of course, Redditors are there, mocking TPUSA:

 Search through the Chapo Trap House subreddit and you will find loads of these parodies and remixes (though the kids have moved on to mocking Jordan "lobsters" Peterson.)

Finally, “Deadspin's Beer Idiot” takes Charlie Kirk down through the power of online absurdism.

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* Third photo in that International Business Times article has Charlie "Forehead" Kirk and Tomi Lahren (Fox News) leaning into the camera at a California political convention - the guy to the far left of the image staring into the lens is noted conservative campus troublemaker David Horowitz, who went from being a part of the New Left in the 1960s to being a Reaganoid in the 1980s. He spent the 1990s publishing the mostly-online FrontPage Magazine (where he published John Derbyshire before Derbyshire became too racist to touch and moved on to VDARE, the anti-immgration outfit named after Virginia Dare, the first child born in an English colony. Unfortunately it was Roanoke colony and she vanished with the rest of the colonists in the late 1580s. Horowitz also published Ann Coulter for a short time after she had been kicked out of the National Review in October, 2001.) After George W. Bush began his "War on Terror", Horowitz took up with "Islamic terrorism experts" Daniel Pipes (son of arch anti-communist Richard Pipes) who runs the McCarthyite website Campus Watch (obsessed with stifling any criticism of Israel on American college campuses) and Robert Spencer ("counter-jihad" creator and frequent Fox News guest) and it was in this "fighting Islamic terrorism" mode that Horowitz started a riot at San Diego State University in 2016 by pasting up flyers claiming that named SDSU students (all of Middle Eastern extraction) by being members of a Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) group were all Islamic terrorists. As with all of his campus stunts, Horowitz spoke at SDSU, and left before the riot began. Milo Yiannopoulos is a sideshow compared to the things David Horowitz has done.

Postscript:


I’m Turning Point USA’s Top Activist in the Country, & I Quit this Shitty Organization

by Kaitlin Bennett February 12, 2018

The following is the resignation letter I handed into my bosses earlier this morning.

Dear Frankie O’Laughlin and Alana Mastrangelo,

After the events of the past week, I have decided that it is in my best interest to part ways from Turning Point USA and tender my resignation immediately. Over the course of the past year, I have put my heart and soul into representing this organization to the best of my ability on my campus, and I believe my dedication is accurately reflected in my position at the top of Turning Point’s leaderboard each week.

Before I became president last summer, Turning Point USA had zero footprint at Kent State University. In just a matter of one semester, I built one of the largest and most successful Turning Point chapters in the country, at one of America’s most liberal universities. Even in lieu of our safe space event last semester, I am still able to attract hundreds of students on campus to sign up for our emails, and express interest in joining the chapter. We have had an overwhelmingly positive effect on campus, and are not only the leading voice for conservative thought on campus, but one of the leading voices in the country. I have also built a team of dedicated activists that are willing to skip class to table with me, because they want to learn how to be as successful as I am at collecting signatures after I graduate in May.

Despite my hard efforts, I have been highly disappointed in the leadership of those higher up than me in Turning Point USA. I was embarrassed to have been left alone to deal with the aftermath of the safe space event, and even lied about by Turning Point national. You two approved the event but took zero responsibility to save face for yourselves. Not only did I invite you to attend our entire free speech week, but you even told me you would help me apply for a grant for the event. I was also made aware by other Turning Point chapters under your watch that you were fully aware that Young Americans for Liberty members were the ones who dressed up as children, and that instead of putting the blame where it belonged, you not only distanced yourself from the event, but you let my chapter face the consequences of online harassment. I am appalled that national headquarters lied about, and put one of their own chapters under the bus just so they wouldn’t upset another organization.

Not only did Turning Point refuse to accurately report on the facts of the event, but you assured us you would have our backs when we did receive this onslaught of harassment online, and from other Turning Point chapters. Instead, Turning Point not only did nothing about this, but invited one of the bullies to speak on stage at the Student Action Summit in Florida this past December. Meanwhile, I have been disciplined by Turning Point national and Charlie Kirk himself for defending myself against other Turning Point members who came after me. Strangely, these same individuals were allowed to criticize us free of charge.
Although I thought the safe space event was funny and have zero remorse for holding it, I took full responsibility for it when Turning Point failed to show any leadership. I had zero obligation to act in this manner, however my heart and soul were still dedicated to helping this organization grow as much as possible. With this, I swallowed my pride, apologized and moved forward in the direction that Turning Point wanted me to. Since then, I have worked tirelessly to make the event a thing of the past, and make Turning Point at Kent most remembered for the values we represent, rather than the event we held.

Looking to help the chapter move into a new direction, I have been eager to host guest speakers, and plan big events for my final semester of college. However, despite Frankie giving me the go-ahead to host the NRA at my campus all the way back in October, no headway has been made in getting them to Kent more than four months later. After asking Frankie if I could organize this event myself, he refused to let me do so. Still, all these months later, zero events have been planned for our chapter, and neither of you have offered us any help. You would think having one of the most active chapters in the country, and wanting to help Kent State get a better name for its chapter, you would be jumping at the opportunity to secure us big name speakers. Instead, you can’t even help us coordinate a single, menial event, let alone a speaker.

I have tried time and time again to reach out to the two of you to get an event scheduled, and neither of you seem to have the time to get back to me, despite it being your job to do so. Why are they paying you to help grow chapters if you can’t even answer a text? I get more of a response when Frankie wants to argue with me about why he is agreeing with people who call me a Nazi on Twitter, rather than getting the NRA to campus.

Last semester, Frankie told us we were not allowed to bring Kyle Chapman (the Based Stickman) to our campus since Turning Point wants to distance itself from the alt-right, despite him being a Constitutionalist Ron Paul supporter. Meanwhile, Frankie was liking tweets from notorious Charlottesville attendee and white nationalist icon, James Allsup.

Furthermore, you have been fully aware of the increasing levels of drama within our chapter, and offered to help mediate the situation back in December. As it has reached unbearable levels in the last few weeks, you two assured me you would handle the situation accordingly. Instead, you won’t take my phone calls at the times you tell me you want to talk to me, and can’t even so much as respond to a text yet again. You were also made aware of how this has started to affect my emotional health, and still refuse to take me seriously, and act as the leaders you are supposed to be. You had me believing you would have my back, but have instead left me alone once again. I did not have a choice to go to anyone else, and you assured me you would handle the situation.

As of right now, I am in disbelief at how I went from being so upbeat, enthusiastic, and passionate about this organization to being disgusted, frustrated, and embarrassed to have invested my entire senior year into an organization founded by a college dropout who hires some of the most incompetent, lazy, and downright dishonest people I have ever encountered. While Turning Point USA is a career for the two of you, for some of us it was a passion. Instead of recognizing this, you put your paychecks ahead of the principles you claim to represent, and turned your most dedicated activists away from your organization.

I am deeply saddened that Turning Point USA did not turn out to be the organization I thought it was, as it was once a dream of mine to work for you after college. In fact, Frankie told me back in August that he would help me attain employment after I graduate, and the same sentiments were shared with me at SAS by Emily Parry. This also turned out to be a lie, as Frankie’s position will no longer exist at the conclusion of the semester, and my current employment was nearly terminated due to further incompetence of the organization. Though Emily told me in December she would be calling me in May, she had the audacity to terminate my contract, before Alana did something useful for once and got me my job back for the semester.

However through all of this, I am thankful for something. I have realized how much of a shithole organization Turning Point USA is, and am glad I got out of this bullshit before I invested my whole life into it, let alone just my senior year of college. Now that I have a clear conscience and have no desire to continue my employment with Turning Point, I will have the time to find a real job, something I recommend for you. Maybe answering to business professionals rather than college dropouts, egotistic enough to put their face on stupid memes, will give you the leadership skills you desperately need for your positions.

Effective immediately, I will be stepping down from my position as the Chapter President and Campus Coordinator of Turning Point USA at Kent State University. I expect to be paid in full for my hours worked, since the organization is also too incompetent to multiply 10 by 12.50 every week.

Maybe after this is published on Liberty Hangout and Occupy Democrats Logic, to audiences that reach 17 million people on a bad week, I too can be verified on Twitter like you, Alana.

Good riddance,

Kaitlin Bennett

P.S. If you need a safe space after everyone hears about this, I still have the diapers.

Wikipedia Sucks? No, REDDIT Sucks: the Graceless Dropkick of Eric Barbour off the Site

To quote Vietnam War pirate broadcaster Dave Rabbit :"And the HITS just keep on COMIN'".....for the last two-plus years Eric Barbour, the major reason why this blog still operates, was commenting on Reddit as powersynth102 and also running the RedditCritiques "subreddit" with myself and a friend. Mr. Barbour has had to deal with Vigilant from Wikipediocracy on Reddit (as I wrote in the first article on Reddit for this blog, everybody from Wikipedia - including the critics - is on that superforum. It's too hard not to be at this point.) What lit the fuse to the bomb that wiped Eric Barbour out was this post, which we will reprint below in case it is removed later:

During a t_d hatefest against Supreme Court justice Ginsberg, the subject of u/spez and his political beliefs comes up. (self.RedditCritiques)

submitted 2 days ago by powersynth102

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/7tmidn/t_d_finds_out_ginsberg_will_skip_sotu_as_scalia/

No, /u/spez is a supporter of Trump, and Trumpism. He's also a doomsday prepper, conspiracy theorist, racist, and moron based on all the articles I've read about him that also quote him.
Here's the doomsday prepper article. I can't remember all the other interviews I've seen with him that paint him as the nutter he is.

Here, let me help you with that
http://survivalandprosperity.com/2017/01/26/rich-americans-keep-on-prepping/
http://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-ceo-apocalypse-doomsday-prep-2017-1

And that is why r/The_Donald is allowed to continue on its merry, and violently insane, way. Of course, he won't admit it publicly....

https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/11/16/13642446/reddit-subreddit-of-the-day-alt-right

And don't forget, Huffman hates it most of all ..... when someone criticizes HIM.
https://rightedition.com/2016/11/25/reddit-ceo-admits-editing-posts-made-trump-supporters/

Then there was this post, which was removed entirely, then brought back by Gandalf:

Cory Carnley, what a buffoon (self.RedditCritiques)

submitted 23 hours ago * by powersynth102

https://babe.net/2018/01/29/this-terrible-high-schooler-bragged-about-reporting-his-undocumented-classmate-so-they-could-be-deported-31104

https://babe.net/2018/01/30/that-guy-who-tried-to-get-an-undocumented-classmate-deported-has-been-expelled-from-his-school-31322

"Cory had an active Reddit account that often posted the n-word, fantasized about torturing immigrants, and bemoaned how white women sleep with people of color. Yesterday he posted a photo of himself to a Donald Trump-supporting subreddit and bragged about how he reported one of his classmates to ICE."

He was under u/ChipperLockPicker, now deleted. The only traces left are some old racist memes posted to r/DankMemeArchive. He was active on T_D but you can't find any of that now.

Of course there's a Kiwi Farms thread
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/highschooler-reports-anchor-baby-student-to-ice-or-something.38968/

Plus 4channers pissing on him
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/158452962/

Above is Cory Carnley, troll and active racist. For his douchebaggery he was expelled from his high school. In a private email to me Eric Barbour thought that Carnley had sicced his friends from /r/The_Donald while he deleted reams of material off Reddit and the seperate Imgur website (pictures and gifs).....he's stuck at home with a possibly-existing Guatemalan household maid he probably abuses and yet makes passionate love to*, so he has plenty of time to digitally burnbag everything.

A message I was sent on Reddit:

from noodsy20x6[A] to /r/RedditCritiques sent 10 hours ago

Hi there,
I’ve removed this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditCritiques/comments/7u5s3j/cory_carnley_what_a_buffoon/

Because it contains PI. When mainstream media use someone’s full name that person can then be considered a public figure, but in this case it’s just one site running the story and it would not be considered mainstream media.

Cheers.

This is their cover for junking the post, that only "babe.net" was taking about Carnley on the 29th and that they had mentioned his (now defunct) Reddit handle ChipperLockPicker. Wiki-lawyering without Wikipedia, yes? By the way, noodsy20x6 has only been on the site a year, is an Administrator somehow, and has only made three comments in that year. I smell a sock.

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* That wasn't a Barbour invention, Gloria Huerta Muñoz sprang from my keyboard.....it's extremely common for arch-racist types to have a love interest from an ethnic group that they officially loathe - see Ingo Hasselbach's memoir Führer Ex: Memoirs of a Former Neo-Nazi (1996); not mentioned in the film version but Hasselbach (an East German who went Skinhead in the 1980s) had an Asian lover after the Wall fell but before unification happened. Also the Prologue to Wyn Craig Wade's 1987 history The Fiery Cross: The Ku-Klux Klan in America, which discusses sexual relations in the Antebellum South between plantation owners and overseers and the Black women they owned or controlled.

When it Rains, it Pours: the Zaiger Fiasco at Encyclopedia Dramatica

Another short-ish post before the month runs out - Brian Zaiger of Encyclopaedia Dramatica has been found out by the High Council of Snarksters running the joint for stealing money from the fund set up to fight the Monsarrat case from last year, money he allegedly spent on male hookers and hard drugs ("....paging Walter White, you need to meet Jesse Pinkman at Gate 12.") Allegedly he is now homeless and wandering the tourist-trappy streets of Salem, Mass., wearing a "Witches Burned While U Wait" t-shirt.

                                  Why is Zaiger so smug? (Stolen from Encyclopedia Dramatica.)

This has been an ongoing year where the Rubber met the Road for ED - the aforementioned stupid Jonathan Monsarrat lawsuit, AlGore (William Atcheson) going on a spastic school shooting and then killing himself like the idiot edgelord he was, the insane amount of spam and malware on the site thanks to Zaiger's particular form of anti-leadership. Thankfully they are cleaning their vast gross house and hopefully it will resemble Grunkle Stan's Mystery Shack in the end - repellent, but not malevolent. And no, we are not gloating after the stunt Zaiger pulled here a few years ago.

                              oddguy (EDnik/BadWebComics chieftan) talking about Zaiger on a YouTube show.

                 The above banner is on EVERY PAGE of Encyclopaedia Dramatica to drive the point across that Zaiger is out.