Wednesday, July 28, 2021

I get 'Fun Emails'.....

 Over at the Wikipedia Sucks forum, we've had our share of "interesting people" on the site and that includes the tag team of NIDA and lupicojansteriev who really seem to be the same person. Both accounts had been around since December of 2019. Here is an archive page of their now deleted "wikipeedola" blog....where they accused all Wikipedia users of being pedophiles. I made the mistake of editing in this header into one of their rants: (I don't like doing this, but below is an example of some of the posts we get from NIDA and this account, which read to me like the same person. We have a backlog of six or so of these posts and it's always ALMOST on the point until BANG!, the craziness sets back in. Whomever is writing these, please seek help, either from a writing tutor or a psychologist or both. - Strelnikov) These threads were moved into the "Garbage" forum, not deleted, but now I'm getting these weird emails. Here is the first one:

Re: WHATS THE MEANING OF THIS DISRESPECT?

garbage terminology be better gone within 48 hours, u r disrespcting good work, work u ll never find again!

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 5:08 PM Tadeusz Ted Nida <redacted> wrote:

CASE IN POINT, EXCELLENT STUFF AND ALL INFO HAS BEEN PROVEN CORRECT, MAKE SURE BY MONDAY GARBAGE CATEGORY IS GONE, WE DONT WANT YOU AS OUR ENEMIES... BUT WE NEVER, EVER BACK DOWN FROM INJUSTICE AND WIKIASSHOLES, IN THIS CASE SUXASSHOLES!!!

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 10:11 PM Tadeusz Ted Nida <redacted> wrote:
GUYS... BE FAIR, CHANGE THE NAME AS VESNA HAS INSTRUCTED U IMMEDIATELY!

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:30 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
 we do not appreciate you made this norm garbage and some of these editors are not known to NIDA: change to the name of garbage to interesting stuff immediately, you are disrespecting hard work and work that informs the world on wikipedoia stupidity and why people should stay away from it or get hurt when they stay, we know ins and outs of wikicrapia, nobody else knows since 2005: https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewforum.php?f=33&sid=514ae9c6bb23d2c821e828b1fb827134 CONFIRM AND SHOW RESPECT! so far what we under NIDA posted is just a drop in an ocean... but you curtailed our account and we can only post a little, but we will not stay for it to be called garbage, UNDERSTOOD?
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 8:48 AM suck admin <redacted> wrote:
Hello,

Were having some technical problems with the forum. 

As to your previous question I don't know Larry Sanger.

As to your posts there have been complaints about them being in all caps.

I unaware of any users you've brought or what else you have done for the forum.

On Tue, May 11, 2021, 10:55 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
  hi, our nida account, we cant post shit, what did you do, fix it immediately, also many links, not only done by nida cant be accessed as proven below, fix all of that and confirm immediately, also answer previous question. respect our time and how much we did for wikipediasucks, how many nem members we brought you, do not bow down to wikipedos bitching, the wikitruth must stay forever and be on the level, be stern, be stoic, not wikipussies!

SUPER VANDAL ANTANDRUS REVERTING THE FACT THAT NUON WAS PROVEN GUILTY ON MULTIPLE CHARGES; WIKIPEDOIA'S ANTANDRUS & WIKIDIOTS SAY IT'S ONE CHARGE (it is one charge as one life time, but not one charge as a whole, duh):
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nuon_Chea&action=history
read all threads on wmf's official satanic influence antandrus, the supreme wikimoron, the best of wikimedia foundation has to offer:
wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333
wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333&p=19424&sid=ddd90e6d3c2a731c4a0fb4a65ede2e00#p19467
wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333&p=19509#p19509

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:20 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
  assist us in creating concise encyclopedia from simple encyclopedia

do u know somebody who can erase privacy violations on simple wiki?
can you spread our link on new encyclopedia, repost it, i want people to join, 
you are welcomed too dude! i will copy all simple wiki articles, like ghost copy of hard drive, is that possible without access to simple database, how did wikivoyag do it from wikitravel in 2013? 8-)  please give this message to all the wikipediasucks hotshots! whats email for larry sanger?

That was on July 14. But back in April I had an email conversation with Eric Barbour on this oddball email I'd gotten and I had completely forgotten about it:

That is the "NIDA" freak. I told him/her to back off the grinding new threads and keep getting whiny PMs instead.

If this continues NIDA is gone from the forum. Fucking mental case, and an apparent paid editor....


On 4/4/21 7:33 PM, [redacted Strelnikov] wrote:
Does this look like a scam to you?


-----Original Message-----
From: Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted>
To: <redacted Strelnikov>
Sent: Sat, Apr 3, 2021 9:16 pm
Subject: simple wikipedoia to be concise encyclopedia

do u know somebody who can erase privacy violations on simple wiki?
can you spread our link on new encyclopedia, repost it, i want people to join, 
you are welcomed too dude! i will copy all simple wiki articles, like ghost copy of hard drive, is that possible without access to simple database, how did wikivoyag do it from wikitravel in 2013? 8-)  please give this message to all the wikipediasucks hotshots! whats email for larry sanger?

(I get a lot of weird emails.) On July 15 I got this: 

Re: WHATS THE MEANING OF THIS DISRESPECT?

our words toward u r crude, but so is garbage! so its fair!

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 8:19 AM Wanda Wladyslawa Nida <redacted> wrote:
ceo of sux, conirm TODAY garbage has been changed to: wikipediasucks musings category, u r to resepct us and hard work as that is no garbage but masterpiece and by saying its garbage u r downgrading yourselves and proving u r wikihpocrites aka WMFvomit with no shame and respect! 

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 7:36 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:41 AM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
learn to be grateful suxpedos!

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:41 AM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
garbage terminology be better gone within 48 hours, u r disrespcting good work, work u ll never find again!

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 5:08 PM Tadeusz Ted Nida <redacted> wrote:
CASE IN POINT, EXCELLENT STUFF AND ALL INFO HAS BEEN PROVEN CORRECT, MAKE SURE BY MONDAY GARBAGE CATEGORY IS GONE, WE DONT WANT YOU AS OUR ENEMIES... BUT WE NEVER, EVER BACK DOWN FROM INJUSTICE AND WIKIASSHOLES, IN THIS CASE SUXASSHOLES!!!

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 10:11 PM Tadeusz Ted Nida <redacted> wrote:
GUYS... BE FAIR, CHANGE THE NAME AS VESNA HAS INSTRUCTED U IMMEDIATELY!

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:30 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
 we do not appreciate you made this norm garbage and some of these editors are not known to NIDA: change to the name of garbage to interesting stuff immediately, you are disrespecting hard work and work that informs the world on wikipedoia stupidity and why people should stay away from it or get hurt when they stay, we know ins and outs of wikicrapia, nobody else knows since 2005: https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewforum.php?f=33&sid=514ae9c6bb23d2c821e828b1fb827134 CONFIRM AND SHOW RESPECT! so far what we under NIDA posted is just a drop in an ocean... but you curtailed our account and we can only post a little, but we will not stay for it to be called garbage, UNDERSTOOD?
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 8:48 AM suck admin <redacted> wrote:
Hello,

Were having some technical problems with the forum. 

As to your previous question I don't know Larry Sanger.

As to your posts there have been complaints about them being in all caps.

I unaware of any users you've brought or what else you have done for the forum.

On Tue, May 11, 2021, 10:55 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
  hi, our nida account, we cant post shit, what did you do, fix it immediately, also many links, not only done by nida cant be accessed as proven below, fix all of that and confirm immediately, also answer previous question. respect our time and how much we did for wikipediasucks, how many nem members we brought you, do not bow down to wikipedos bitching, the wikitruth must stay forever and be on the level, be stern, be stoic, not wikipussies!

SUPER VANDAL ANTANDRUS REVERTING THE FACT THAT NUON WAS PROVEN GUILTY ON MULTIPLE CHARGES; WIKIPEDOIA'S ANTANDRUS & WIKIDIOTS SAY IT'S ONE CHARGE (it is one charge as one life time, but not one charge as a whole, duh):
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nuon_Chea&action=history
read all threads on wmf's official satanic influence antandrus, the supreme wikimoron, the best of wikimedia foundation has to offer:
wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333
wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333&p=19424&sid=ddd90e6d3c2a731c4a0fb4a65ede2e00#p19467
wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333&p=19509#p19509

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:20 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
  assist us in creating concise encyclopedia from simple encyclopedia

do u know somebody who can erase privacy violations on simple wiki?
can you spread our link on new encyclopedia, repost it, i want people to join, 
you are welcomed too dude! i will copy all simple wiki articles, like ghost copy of hard drive, is that possible without access to simple database, how did wikivoyag do it from wikitravel in 2013? 8-)  please give this message to all the wikipediasucks hotshots! whats email for larry sanger?

If your eyes haven't glazed over, you will notice that all their emails to me, no matter the account, are a copypasted chain from the first one in April until now (and I am still getting these emails.) This one was from "Wanda Wladyslawa Nida", the first from "Vesna" ("Spring" in Russian). We will get emails from "Grace Mary" later. Sockpuppets get weird.

July 18 and we get this from "Nida":

Re: WHATS THE MEANING OF THIS DISRESPECT?

Ok...


On 7/16/21, Wanda Wladyslawa Nida <redacted> wrote:
> i strongly suggest u not ignore this...
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 4:19 PM Wanda Wladyslawa Nida <redacted> wrote:
>
>> our words toward u r crude, but so is garbage! so its fair!
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 8:19 AM Wanda Wladyslawa Nida <redacted> wrote:
>>
>>> ceo of sux, conirm TODAY garbage has been changed to: wikipediasucks
>>> musings category, u r to resepct us and hard work as that is no garbage
>>> but
>>> masterpiece and by saying its garbage u r downgrading yourselves and
>>> proving u r wikihpocrites aka WMFvomit with no shame and respect!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 7:36 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:41 AM Vesna (Vanessa) I
>>>> <redacted>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> learn to be grateful suxpedos!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:41 AM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> garbage terminology be better gone within 48 hours, u r disrespcting
>>>>>> good work, work u ll never find again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 5:08 PM Tadeusz Ted Nida <redacted> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1333
>>>>>>> CASE IN POINT, EXCELLENT STUFF AND ALL INFO HAS BEEN PROVEN CORRECT,
>>>>>>> MAKE SURE BY MONDAY GARBAGE CATEGORY IS GONE, WE DONT WANT YOU AS
>>>>>>> OUR
>>>>>>> ENEMIES... BUT WE NEVER, EVER BACK DOWN FROM INJUSTICE AND
>>>>>>> WIKIASSHOLES, IN
>>>>>>> THIS CASE SUXASSHOLES!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 10:11 PM Tadeusz Ted Nida <redacted> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GUYS... BE FAIR, CHANGE THE NAME AS VESNA HAS INSTRUCTED U
>>>>>>>> IMMEDIATELY!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:30 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  we do not appreciate you made this norm garbage and some of these
>>>>>>>>> editors are not known to NIDA: change to the name of garbage to
>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>> stuff immediately, you are disrespecting hard work and work that
>>>>>>>>> informs
>>>>>>>>> the world on wikipedoia stupidity and why people should stay away
>>>>>>>>> from it
>>>>>>>>> or get hurt when they stay, we know ins and outs of wikicrapia,
>>>>>>>>> nobody else
>>>>>>>>> knows since 2005:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewforum.php?f=33&sid=514ae9c6bb23d2c821e828b1fb827134
>>>>>>>>> CONFIRM AND SHOW RESPECT! so far what we under NIDA posted is just
>>>>>>>>> a drop
>>>>>>>>> in an ocean... but you curtailed our account and we can only post a
>>>>>>>>> little,
>>>>>>>>> but we will not stay for it to be called garbage, UNDERSTOOD?
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 8:48 AM suck admin <redacted> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Were having some technical problems with the forum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As to your previous question I don't know Larry Sanger.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As to your posts there have been complaints about them being in
>>>>>>>>>> all caps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I unaware of any users you've brought or what else you have done
>>>>>>>>>> for the forum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2021, 10:55 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  hi, our nida account, we cant post shit, what did you do, fix
>>>>>>>>>>> it immediately, also many links, not only done by nida cant be
>>>>>>>>>>> accessed as
>>>>>>>>>>> proven below, fix all of that and confirm immediately, also
>>>>>>>>>>> answer previous
>>>>>>>>>>> question. respect our time and how much we did for
>>>>>>>>>>> wikipediasucks, how many
>>>>>>>>>>> nem members we brought you, do not bow down to wikipedos
>>>>>>>>>>> bitching, the
>>>>>>>>>>> wikitruth must stay forever and be on the level, be stern, be
>>>>>>>>>>> stoic, not
>>>>>>>>>>> wikipussies!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> SUPER VANDAL ANTANDRUS REVERTING THE FACT THAT NUON WAS PROVEN
>>>>>>>>>>> GUILTY ON MULTIPLE CHARGES; WIKIPEDOIA'S ANTANDRUS & WIKIDIOTS
>>>>>>>>>>> SAY IT'S ONE
>>>>>>>>>>> CHARGE (it is one charge as one life time, but not one charge as
>>>>>>>>>>> a whole,
>>>>>>>>>>> duh):
>>>>>>>>>>> en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nuon_Chea&action=history
>>>>>>>>>>> read all threads on wmf's official satanic influence antandrus,
>>>>>>>>>>> the supreme wikimoron, the best of wikimedia foundation has to
>>>>>>>>>>> offer:
>>>>>>>>>>> wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333&p=19424&sid=ddd90e6d3c2a731c4a0fb4a65ede2e00#p19467
>>>>>>>>>>> wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1333&p=19509#p19509
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:20 PM Vesna (Vanessa) I <redacted> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  assist us in creating concise encyclopedia from simple
>>>>>>>>>>>> encyclopedia
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> do u know somebody who can erase privacy violations on simple
>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki?
>>>>>>>>>>>> can you spread our link on new encyclopedia, repost it, i want
>>>>>>>>>>>> people to join,
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1913
>>>>>>>>>>>> you are welcomed too dude! i will copy all simple wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>> articles,
>>>>>>>>>>>> like ghost copy of hard drive, is that possible without access
>>>>>>>>>>>> to simple
>>>>>>>>>>>> database, how did wikivoyag do it from wikitravel in 2013? 8-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> please give
>>>>>>>>>>>> this message to all the wikipediasucks hotshots! whats email for
>>>>>>>>>>>> larry
>>>>>>>>>>>> sanger?
>>>>>>>>>>>>

They think I am paying attention, and that I will take their posts out of the Garbage forum, and that I will apologize, even though it's been two years of capslock ranting and name-calling and the moderators are sick of it. On July 21 I finally shoot back to "Wanda":

Please get help, I mean it.

This rambling insanity impresses nobody. I mean it.

(Deleted all of their copypasting.)

Which spawns this response:

Re: Please get help, I mean it.

hater!

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 3:22 PM <redacted> wrote:
This rambling insanity impresses nobody. I mean it.

(All of their copypasting deleted.) 

We should copypaste some of the bizarro "Grace Mary" emails here.....

Fwd: Hey Ljupco why are all your 'Wikipediasucks' posts in "GARBAGE"? ... ha ha ha

dear wikipediasucks.co...
you were warned by others this will happen, im lupco's mother, here is proof antandrus is stalking me and lupco and my family, immediately change garbage to other stuff, how dare you make that post garbage, you are garbage, you are the definition of garbage as you side with real life stalkers who cause pain and problems and try to arrest us, how dare you?do you know what shame is assholes? below is one of 1000s of emails from antandrus using fake email sender, he wants us arrested; he is pretending to be us all over internet, he made false police reports; what is going on is satanic so we ask of you to find me all the info you have on antandrus as we need to arrest this stalker immediately and thus expose what wikipedia is all about; below is not email sent from me to myself, duh... this is serious, serious as life itself, so get that straight... the first part of this email is DEMAND, DO NOT PUT PEOPLE DOWN AND APPRECIATE WHAT LUPCO AND NIDA FAMILY IS POSTING, second part is REQUEST. So come clean asap!

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Grazyna  <redacted>
Date: Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:24 PM
Subject: Hey Ljupco why are all your 'Wikipediasucks' posts in "GARBAGE"? ... ha ha ha
To: <redacted>, <redacted>, <redacted>,  


LOL ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA
Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA
Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA

I think I know why!! ha ha ha ha

Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA

Re: Hey Ljupco why are all your 'Wikipediasucks' posts in "GARBAGE"? ... ha ha ha

below antandrus email is nothing, when i show you what he wrote (he also created illegal porn site where my son has sex with animils aka bestiality)... you are not to post this anywhere, except talk to each other about this if you want more info, again, find all the info you have on antandrus whose real name is david!

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:15 PM Grace Mary <redacted> wrote:
 
dear wikipediasucks.co...
you were warned by others this will happen, im lupco's mother, here is proof antandrus is stalking me and lupco and my family, immediately change garbage to other stuff, how dare you make that post garbage, you are garbage, you are the definition of garbage as you side with real life stalkers who cause pain and problems and try to arrest us, how dare you?do you know what shame is assholes? below is one of 1000s of emails from antandrus using fake email sender, he wants us arrested; he is pretending to be us all over internet, he made false police reports; what is going on is satanic so we ask of you to find me all the info you have on antandrus as we need to arrest this stalker immediately and thus expose what wikipedia is all about; below is not email sent from me to myself, duh... this is serious, serious as life itself, so get that straight... the first part of this email is DEMAND, DO NOT PUT PEOPLE DOWN AND APPRECIATE WHAT LUPCO AND NIDA FAMILY IS POSTING, second part is REQUEST. So come clean asap!
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Grazyna  <redacted>
Date: Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:24 PM
Subject: Hey Ljupco why are all your 'Wikipediasucks' posts in "GARBAGE"? ... ha ha ha
To: <redacted>, <redacted>, <redacted>,  


LOL ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA
Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA
Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA

I think I know why!! ha ha ha ha

Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA

 Re: Hey Ljupco why are all your 'Wikipediasucks' posts in "GARBAGE"? ... ha ha ha

YOU PEOPLE ARE BEYOND DISGUSTING WIKISHAME, YOU WILL REMAIN UNFORGIVEN WIKISHAME FOREVER!

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:25 PM Grace Mary <redacted> wrote:

arrange amongst yourselves who will write me! what you will see you, your eyes will bulge out to say the least!

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:17 PM Grace Mary <redacted> wrote:
below antandrus email is nothing, when i show you what he wrote (he also created illegal porn site where my son has sex with animils aka bestiality)... you are not to post this anywhere, except talk to each other about this if you want more info, again, find all the info you have on antandrus whose real name is david!

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:15 PM Grace Mary <redacted> wrote:
 
dear wikipediasucks.co...
you were warned by others this will happen, im lupco's mother, here is proof antandrus is stalking me and lupco and my family, immediately change garbage to other stuff, how dare you make that post garbage, you are garbage, you are the definition of garbage as you side with real life stalkers who cause pain and problems and try to arrest us, how dare you?do you know what shame is assholes? below is one of 1000s of emails from antandrus using fake email sender, he wants us arrested; he is pretending to be us all over internet, he made false police reports; what is going on is satanic so we ask of you to find me all the info you have on antandrus as we need to arrest this stalker immediately and thus expose what wikipedia is all about; below is not email sent from me to myself, duh... this is serious, serious as life itself, so get that straight... the first part of this email is DEMAND, DO NOT PUT PEOPLE DOWN AND APPRECIATE WHAT LUPCO AND NIDA FAMILY IS POSTING, second part is REQUEST. So come clean asap!
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Grazyna  <redacted>
Date: Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:24 PM
Subject: Hey Ljupco why are all your 'Wikipediasucks' posts in "GARBAGE"? ... ha ha ha
To: <redacted>, <redacted>, <redacted>,  


LOL ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA
Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA
Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA

I think I know why!! ha ha ha ha

Garbage, garbage, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA

....And the emails have been coming along ever since. Probably we will get more crazy ramblings after this goes up, I don't know. I could post the email addresses "broken" (a lot of them are gmail accounts), but I'm not going to, I don't need the 'bots swarming in here.


Below: Some of the fun images sent to me by whomever is behind all this.




Posted by at 3 comments:

Friday, July 9, 2021

Our Snarky Commentary on Recent Wikipedia News

Actual things have been going on in WikiLand this year and before it all gets too dated, we have to say something about these items.

María Sefidari Huici quits being WMF Chairperson, becomes a WMF "consultant"

We are going to be brutally honest - before we read about her quitting, we did not know who was Wikimedia Foundation Chair. Sefidari Huici was Chairperson for eight years, which is one year longer than this blog has been running, and I have not heard a peep about her or how she has been operating the Wikimedia Foundation. She resigned on the 3rd of June with the following email:

Dear All, There is one last bit of news I would like to share following the Board meeting update. After ~ 8 years on the Board of Trustees at the Wikimedia Foundation - a long time! - I have notified the Board that I am stepping down as Chair and trustee, effective end of day today. As all of you know, the community-selected seats were due to expire last year and were extended at the request of the Board to see through these difficult and unprecedented times. Now, after chairing the last meeting of the fiscal year and having the call for candidates for the upcoming elections approved, it is the least disruptive moment for me to step down. The Foundation has asked me to consider an advisory role to support Movement Strategy and the onboarding of new trustees and the new CEO/ED, to help support leadership and this strategic transition. Nataliia Tymkiv, currently Vice Chair, will act as Chair until a new one is elected by the Board ensuring continuity. Hopefully this news will not come as too much of a surprise. I am grateful to the community members who lent me their trust and support to become a trustee on two different occasions, to the staff, and to the trustees for their confidence in me in the different leadership positions I have held within the Board - first as committee chair, then two terms as Vice Chair, and two terms as Chair. Together we have accomplished many things during this time, but if I had to single out only a few they would be the following: launching the Movement Strategy process, engaging in the most ambitious governance reform in the history of the Board, and working to ensure the stability and sustainability of the Foundation. It has been a time of change, of discussing strategy and our future, and deciding together what the path forward should be. Of course, the work is never finished - it will be the task of the Board to continue what has been done and face the newer and complex challenges that will no doubt arise. I hope that we will see many of the women of the movement and people from the Global South as candidates in the upcoming community elections - I know there are many qualified people ready to step into these important roles. I look forward to supporting an increasingly capable and diverse Board. Be safe and well everyone. Tupananchiskama, [This is a Quechua farewell meaning "till we meet again" - S.] María -- María Sefidari Huici Chair of the Board Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>


Then twenty days later she was hired to "consult with the Foundation on Movement Strategy and the ongoing Board evolution for the upcoming year" and the uproar was something.


Hello, all. :) I hope and trust that everyone is keeping well during these times! I’m Maggie Dennis, Vice President of the Community Resilience & Sustainability group of Wikimedia Foundation, within the Legal department. I wanted to announce with pleasure that Maria Sefidari has agreed to consult with the Foundation on Movement Strategy and the ongoing Board evolution for the upcoming year. Many of us know María from her role as the chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, from which she provided invaluable leadership in governance, oversight, and fundraising. Others may know her from her volunteer work as User:Raystorm <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Raystorm>, in which she has a broad range of experience. María, based in Spain, commenced her assignment with the Foundation this week. We intend to tap into her expertise and knowledge of the Foundation to support a successful implementation of the Movement’s Strategy and to tap into new opportunities. (With her Board work, she will be supporting Quim Gil’s team with the Board election and helping Margo Lee in improving onboarding, documentation practices, and training.) María will report to me as part of our Community Resilience & Sustainability group. I’m excited that she accepted our offer for a more hands-on assignment, particularly given how important all of the work she’ll be supporting is. :) With more than 15 years of Wikimedia experience, her contributions in the next phase will be a tremendous benefit to me and my team as we continue settling into our own work on Movement Strategy. Those of you who are involved with Movement Strategy are used to seeing her at related meetings and still will. :) I anticipate María will be joining one or more of the Movement Strategy global conversations <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Updates/June_15,_2021> this weekend. Advertisement alert: maybe you can, too? Here’s more detail <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Updates/June_15,_2021>! I myself will be attending at least one of those sessions and look forward to seeing some of you there. Warm regards, Maggie -- Maggie Dennis She/her/hers Vice President, Community Resilience & Sustainability Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.


And it went on like that from there with Kolbe keeping up the pressure.





We could go on, but the link is out there to see all the 67 or so responses. Other people of note in the list: Fae, Risker, Erik "flee children, he's coming!" Moeller, Dan "I predict baseball games with math" Szymborski, Amanda Keaton (the WMF legal person), Pavel Richter, and Andy Mabbett. The GenderDesk
blog thinks she will be paid, but we assume the drama will continue somehow because that is The Wikipedia Way™.


                      Sefidari Huici at WikiWomen Camp in 2017. Image stolen from Wikipedia (natch.)


The April WMF mailing list switchover 

For those on the WMF email list (not us), the entire system vanished in mid-April then returned on April 28th (a date with historical undertones)  because updates time! I suppose. Amir Sarabadani sent out the message that the "Mailman 3" software was open for general use and that the archives were being converted over. No response from the users. We heard rumors that people were unhappy.

Freenode gets sold off

Freenode ran the Internet Relay Chat servers favored by Wikipedia insiders, this thread at the Wikipedia Sucks! forum goes into some details while this old Wikipediocracy thread from 2013 runs through more of it. Eric Barbour "spilled the beans" then:

Damn right. The real nastiness happens on #wikipedia-en.admins.
Epic, unbelievably stupid battles happen there, as with any noticeboard. Used to be a lot of Giano and Malleus abuse.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/wiki ... /User_list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... in_channel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... s%27_Abuse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... ration/IRC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... C_channels

And that's not all, folks!
Other "secret" English Wikipedia IRC channels include:

#wikimedia-checkuser
#wikipedia-en-checkuser-clerks
#wikipedia-mediation
#wikipedia-en-unblock
#wikipedia-en-accounts
#wikipedia-medcab
#countervandalism, used by the highly secretive "Countervandalism Unit". They also have a private wiki.
#wikimedia-otrs-watch

Plus, nutcases open private channels routinely to discuss harassing/blocking someone they don't like. No one on WP will ever discuss any of that.

That's all for this month.....

We are out of time for this month. When the next tranche of Wikipedia news comes along we will discuss it.
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