Wikipedia Sucks! (And So Do Its Critics.): September 2023

From those endless files, thanks to Eric Barbour and Company, some more #wikipedia Internet Relay Chat idiocy.....

Session Start: Sun Oct 31 00:00:01 2010

Session Ident: #wikipedia

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[00:19] <variable> what is en wikipedia's policy on closed sources (things like the OED or other pay-for-access sources)

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[00:22] <geniice> variable in what sense

[00:23] <variable> geniice, is there anything special I should do when citing it?

[00:23] <variable> should I attempt to find a publicy accessible source?

[00:24] <geniice> variable no

[00:24] <variable> geniice, ok cool

[00:24] <geniice> I cite books all the time

[00:24] <variable> ok cool

[00:24] <geniice> about half the sources in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsbridge_creek for example

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[00:27] <geniice> This allows people to promenade along the sea front

[00:27] <geniice> "promenade" in cold blood?

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Session Start: Sun Oct 31 20:59:38 2010

Session Ident: #wikipedia

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03[20:59] * Set by Thehelpfulone!~Helper@wikimedia/Thehelpfulone on Sun Oct 03 09:39:11

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[20:59] <qpt`> [06:44:21] hi

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:44:23] oh hi KB1JWQ

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:44:25] how are you doing

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:44:55] KB1JWQ stop /msging me please

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:44:57] you rapist

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:44:57] lol

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:45:01] so anyone awake

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:45:22] Simmer down.

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:45:29] hi killiondude

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:45:30] what's up bro

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:45:36] gas prices.

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:45:41] yeah serious no fake

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:45:50] so i was reading the nigger page on wikipedia

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:45:54] you ever see it? here's hte direct link

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:46:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:46:14] this guy

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:46:18] he cracks me up

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:46:19] that guy! lol

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:46:34] how's it going bro

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:46:45] chillin wit my bros

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:46:49] i'm really feeling that

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:46:53] any of your bros black?

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:47:09] they wear black

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:47:43] nah i mean are they of african origin?

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:47:56] we're all of african origin

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:48:05] i'm really feeling this

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:48:08] did you not get the memo

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:48:10] would any of them be described by this article?

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:48:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:48:30] that's a rather rude term!

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:48:50] gosh you have truly offended me

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:48:51] i know, right?

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:49:09] so why's this nigger shit even in wikipedia?

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:49:12] sounds like it should have no place

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:49:17] qpt`, shush now.

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:49:24] That's not appropriate.

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:49:33] we live in crazy times

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:49:33] killiondude excuse me cracker, me and closed here are having a conversation

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:49:43] Obvicopters are so loud, I can't hear you.

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:49:44] closedmouth man i used to give like $1K a year to wiki

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:49:57] closedmouth but with all this "nigger" article crap floating around, i don't think i will again

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:50:05] feel me/

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:50:11] i'm really feeling this

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:50:13] was that a request

06[20:59] * closedmouth [06:50:21] feels killiondude

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:50:29] it is a general state of mind

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:50:30] i'm feelin both fo you

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:50:42] i am feeling very killiondude today

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:50:53] ^_^

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:50:59] killiondude you have any insight into this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:51:09] you are missing a word

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:51:11] +do

[20:59] <killiondude> [06:51:33] qpt`, I do not have any insight into that article.

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:51:44] bored

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:52:37] i just want to know why articles like "nigger" exist

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:52:38] like this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:52:45] maybe i should try another channel?

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:52:55] maybe

[20:59] <qpt`> [06:53:32] any suggestions sis?

[20:59] <closedmouth> [06:53:57] ##fixyourconnection

[20:59] <FoeNyx> [07:07:13] killiondude> « i just want to know why articles like "death" exists ! It's quite offensive » said one my undead troll friend :p </halloween>

[20:59] <killiondude> [07:07:26] :-P

[20:59] <yao_ziyuan> [08:31:24] in a word such as 'place', i think there is a very short schwa between [p] and [l]. is it?

[20:59] <closedmouth> [08:42:49] probably depends on the accent

[20:59] <richardcavell> [09:13:11] yeah depends on the accent

[20:59] <richardcavell> [09:13:15] the way I pronounce it, it doesn't

[20:59] <richardcavell> [09:13:29] the l begins before the p is finished

[20:59] <geniice> [10:39:50] I see TVtropes is having money issues

[20:59] <geniice> [10:40:05] http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/TheSituation

[20:59] <TuxFighter> [11:24:59] Can anyone help me with the textbox above [[fr:User:TuxFighter]]

[20:59] <TuxFighter> [11:25:17] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/w/index.php?title=Utilisateur:TuxFighter

[20:59] <TuxFighter> [12:45:53] is the zh wiki available from china ?

[20:59] <pticochon> [14:13:08] hi

[20:59] <pticochon> [14:13:12] so I'm reviewing an article

[20:59] <pticochon> [14:13:23] and a reference points out to the book "electronic test instruments"

[20:59] <pticochon> [14:13:40] however, the book is not free, so I'm unable to check whether the reference is right or wrong

[20:59] <pticochon> [14:13:49] what does one do in such cases?

[20:59] <TuxFighter> [14:15:05] is the zh wiki available from china ?

[20:59] <bluefoxicy> [14:49:50] WOW this stuff is sour

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:18:30] Who did WTC?

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:19:05] Who did WTC?!

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:19:52] Oh, terroist...

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:20:00] WIKIPEDIA IS GOOD.

[20:59] <FoeNyx> [15:20:25] terroist ? are you an errorist ?

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:20:40] I, sir, am no terroist.

[20:59] <closedmouth> [15:20:41] taroist

[20:59] <FoeNyx> [15:21:01] closedmouth> "the tower" !

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:21:03] closedmouth, did you do WTC?

[20:59] <closedmouth> [15:21:13] probably

[20:59] <closedmouth> [15:21:21] what's the tower

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:21:31] My cock.

[20:59] <closedmouth> [15:21:49] oh

[20:59] <FoeNyx> [15:21:55] closedmouth> the tarrot card

[20:59] <closedmouth> [15:22:01] oh

[20:59] <FoeNyx> [15:22:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tower_%28Tarot_card%29

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:31:52] Can someone answer me this?

[20:59] <geniice> [15:32:01] what?

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:32:07] What is Wikipedia more like...? Date Rape or Fisting.

[20:59] <mavhc> [15:32:41] no

[20:59] <geniice> [15:33:02] wikipedia is more like the power of a fully armed and operational battlesation

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:33:31] fien, who is the worst person to go into prison? Nelson Mandela or Mothandas Gandhi?

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:34:12] YOU HAVE TO ANSWER.

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:35:05] OR YOU SUCK COCK.

[20:59] <Cyrius> [15:35:11] ...

[20:59] <Cyrius> [15:35:25] Iamred: stop being lame, it's not funny

[20:59] <geniice> [15:35:34] Dude this is wikipedia. you can't move for gay people

[20:59] <Cyrius> [15:36:10] I've seen better trolling from dead babies

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:37:22] COT DEATH!

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:37:50] :-D

[20:59] <geniice> [15:38:05] wierd fetish you have there

[20:59] <Iamred> [15:38:56] Weird spelling you have there.

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:04:25] Anyone in?

[20:59] <KsM> [16:04:29] No

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:04:31] I need some help with a template

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:04:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-photo-advisory

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:07:00] Basicly, I'd like to bring it up to the same standard as other user namspace templates..

[20:59] <TuxFighter> [16:07:03] is the zh wiki available from china ?

[20:59] <geniice> [16:08:34] basicaly yes

[20:59] <geniice> [16:08:39] some pages are not

[20:59] <TuxFighter> [16:10:59] k that good because I want to translate

[20:59] <TuxFighter> [16:11:10] but its an unpolitical article

[20:59] <Matthewedwards> [16:11:16] Qcoder, I'm writing from my phone right now, so bear with me...

[20:59] <TuxFighter> [16:11:21] so there won´t be any problemes

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:16:07] qcoder, you should put a blue exclamation mark image in it

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:16:30] ME|BUSY: Well I wasn't sure how

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:16:49] if someone can re-word and put in the right pictures - feel-free :)

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:17:47] But check out image help pages and image use pages. They say thats an image with a few issues is better than none at all

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:18:06] True

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:18:17] Gimp and shoop can correct most issues anyway

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:18:30] The intent of template is to help generate 'better' photos, not discourage people from uploading at all :)

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:19:26] I wanted a way to leave an uploader a note that an image had issues, but didn't want to leave something like {{Poor Quality}} on the image itself...

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:19:49] .. which might lead to a 'useful' image being FFD'd without the user knowing :(

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:22:10] well thats was another thing. It seems a bit bitey, esp if I was an ameature photographer and haven't put my photos out in the public eye b4

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:23:10] Hmm

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:23:19] How to word it so it isn't BITEy

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:23:20] ?

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:23:24] Any suggestions

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:23:43] I had mind the sort of tags you used to get on stuff from the Photo lab...

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:23:46] Does wikiversity or whatever it is have photo tutorials? You could link to them

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:23:52] I don't know

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:24:10] But that's what i had mind with the ... Please consider reading ...

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:24:19] (I didn't know where to link it to though...

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:24:21] )

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:26:21] I won't use the template until it's ready though

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:26:37] But would appreciate someone other than me rewording it :)

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:26:59] Leave me a note on my talkpage, Ill look when I get home to a compute

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:27:50] I think the graphics lab has tutorials, too

[20:59] <Qcoder00> [16:29:04] Your talk page being?

[20:59] <Lubaf> [16:29:21] Well, then. I've had two Square Root Of Minus Garfield strips accepted.

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:29:34] [[User talk:Matthewedwards]]

[20:59] <ME|BUSY> [16:30:08] Sorry, didn't realise I has switched to a different nick

[20:59] <Blarumyrran> [17:49:10] Hello. Why are, in many biographic articles, year numbers and ages used intermittently for events in the person's life? It makes the text horrible to read.

[20:59] <RandomTime> [17:53:22] that sounds like something that should be standard

[20:59] <Blarumyrran> [17:54:32] It should be standard that they're used intermittently, or it should be standardized into either ages or year numbers?

[20:59] <variable> [18:53:47] what is that extension that generates a map

[20:59] <variable> [18:53:55] of what wikipedia pages you read?

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[21:41] <insane_kangaroo> [01:40:24] Hello ^_^

[21:41] <insane_kangaroo> [01:40:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry#Federal_Gun_Free_School_Zone_Act_of_1995

[21:41] <insane_kangaroo> [01:40:57] I'm an open carrier, and the last part should be removed or needs citation and was curious what I should do?

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[21:42] <insane_kangaroo> "It is important to note, a carry permit will only exempt a person from this federal law in the State that physically issued the permit." <-- I've never known any case law for this, also there is the issue of "reciprocal" agreements between states.

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