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Many other vandals (such as this one) imitate the vandal described in this page, who is probably no longer active. If you see similar vandalism recently, they may be made by imitators.

(archived from the original Dcoetzee essay)

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In any project that allows free editing of a work by anyone, the act that we call vandalism, the intentional destruction and/or falsification of the information or structure of that work, is bound to arise. Vandals vandalize for many reasons, many of which apply to real-world vandalism as well: testing the system, attaining a feeling of power, marking out territory, and drawing attention to themselves. Most vandals vandalize only a few times in very simple ways before they become tired of it. Some will escalate until they are banned, and then stop.

And then, there's Willy. Willy on Wheels is a persistent vandal who creates many thousands of throwaway accounts to vandalize Wikipedia in many different ways, most infamously by quickly moving large numbers of articles to new and degrading names. He sees vandalism as a competition, attempting to vandalize as many pages as possible before being banned, and participates in external communities who attempt to defeat his records. Like other vandals, he craves attention and enjoys watching the stir he creates.

Willy's methods

The first known account ever used by Willy was User:Willy on wheels, on August 20, 2004. This user did not move pages; instead, he repeatedly clicked "Random article" and replaced the contents of each article with "{{PAGENAME}} has been vandalized by the Willy on wheels", defacing dozens of articles in two minutes. This simple method already demonstrates the vandal's sophistication: the {{PAGENAME}} variable is little-known even to regular contributors, who rarely have occasion to use it except in templates. It also demonstrates his tendency for flashy, outrageous vandalism, the kind that gets noticed very quickly. Other vandals attempt to avoid detection, but Willy wants to do a lot of highly visible damage quickly and then get caught. He is not out to test the system like sneaky vandals — at this point, he knows these edits will last for only seconds.

Next, Willy vandalized Template:In the news, a template transcluded onto the Main Page, presumably to make his vandalism as highly visible as possible. Again, only a seasoned contributor would know about this template and understand how it is transcluded, and the edit was reverted nearly instantly. Two hours later, 200.48.218.178 replaced the page with an image of an erect penis. We can presume that this is Willy editing anonymously - the page was reverted 3 minutes later. This is not a private IP, however, but a well-known open proxy - it seems even opening the logs would do little to reveal his identity. Then, curiously, he abruptly halted his vandalism. This user never edited anything again except his talk page, and was never banned until much later, when his later incarnations made his name infamous.

Why did Willy stop? It seems that he was flustered at the futility of his vandalism and he was contemplating more effective methods, for five days later emerged User:The Willy on Wheels. This new incarnation of Willy proceeded to move random articles to random names, usually by adding "on wheels" or incorporating "Willy", drawing attention to himself, as can be seen on one of his sock's contributions. These changes were just as obvious as his previous changes, but at the time they were impossible for anyone but administrators to reverse, because moving a page leaves a redirect at the previous name, and the page could not be moved back without first deleting that redirect. This technique, called high-speed page move vandalism, strained the relatively small number of administrators who cleaned up vandalism and increased revert times. The account was banned almost instantly, but the damage was done.

Because page moving is not available to anonymous users, he had to create another account to repeat the trick, and then another and another, one for each attack. Most of these accounts had names that were a variation on the original "Willy on Wheels", although some were totally different. The attacks came sporadically, sometimes minutes apart, sometimes weeks. He began to demonstrate his awareness of Wikipedia culture and processes, choosing names that played off the names of well-known contributors in the community, vandalizing the user pages of well-known users, moving Wikipedia:Votes for deletion and Wikipedia:Community Portal, and so on. At one point he edited a MediaWiki message to attempt to hide RecentChanges in order to make it more difficult to detect his changes. He also began stealing user pages of reputable Wikipedians to attempt to legitimize his edits.

One of our best sources of information on Willy is an old revision of User:WoW. This shows that Willy's ultimate goal is to vandalize as many pages as he possibly can before being banned. He is constantly attempting to innovate new techniques toward this end, and sees it as a competition. He claims affiliation with troll groups like the GNAA and the "anti-cabal" movement against the leadership of Wikipedia. There may even be multiple Willies competing for this "honor", as suggested by his proposal for a competition.

This page was reposted on subsequent user pages, along with addendums referring to popular theories about Willy such as the concept that he might be an alter ego of an active administrator (a conclusion based on his intimate knowledge of Wikipedia).

It seems that others took Willy's competition seriously. User:A ding ding ding ding..., with a clearly different writing style, brags that he has beaten Willy's record of 175 edits before being blocked with 200 edits. This competition just fuels Willy's efforts.

A profile based on edits

• He is deeply familiar with the software and the culture. He knows rarely-used features, notable members of the community not known outside of the community, and appears to be experimenting with his methods offline (due to a lack of test edits with his vandalizing users).
• He likes Firefox and had a 64-bit machine, later upgrading to a Mac Mini, and claims affiliation with long-time troll groups.
• He despises the power structure of Wikipedia, as evidenced by his proclaimed affiliation with anti-cabal groups - this strongly suggests that he is not in fact an admin at all, but may have been a registered user.
• From the creation of User:John Kerry's Willy on Wheels!, we get the idea that he dislikes John Kerry and may be a Republican.
• His references to the people who discuss and block his vandalism show that he watches them and revels in the attention, enjoys taunting them.

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Willy on Wheels[edit]

Willy on Wheels (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)

Willy on Wheels

• Suspected sock puppets/Willy on Wheels

• Requests for checkuser/Case/Willy on Wheels

Suspected sockpuppets

• Willy on Ruby Wheels (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• Willy on Emerald Wheels (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• Willy on bronze wheels (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• Willy on silver wheels (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• Willy on gold wheels (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• Wheels on Willys TURBO (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA) - Invalid account name

Evidence submitted by KuyaBriBri^Talk

All user names that resemble name of a banned user KuyaBriBri^Talk 13:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence submitted by KuyaBriBri^Talk

Another account resembling that of a banned user KuyaBriBri^Talk 13:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

Comments by other users

CheckUser requests

Checkuser request – code letter: F (Other reason )

Current status –  Completed: Reviewed by a Checkuser, results and comments are below.    Requested by Synergy 13:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC) [reply]

 Clerk note: This is self endorsed. Curb accounts being created, check for more accounts, etc. Synergy 13:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Conclusions

It's unlikely that this individual is the original "Willy on Wheels". All of the accounts were created by the same highly dynamic IP, there are no additional accounts. Also, The last account listed above is invalid. --Versageek 16:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I didn't believe it to be the original either. Synergy 16:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This case has been marked as closed. It has been archived automatically.

--Nothing much we can do here; all accounts blocked. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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02 February 2012[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets

• Willy's Return (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

Editor claims to be Willy on Wheels, a banned user NellieBly (talk) 02:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

I don't see where they claimed to be Willy on Wheels, just someone named Willy. Is it listed somewhere else? TNXMan 14:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Says it on his Userpage [1] - third edit. Of course he may just be a Willy Wannabee, but I have blocked as either he is Willy (so is a banned user) or he is a troll pretending to be Willy (not here to further the project). --Elen of the Roads (talk) 18:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The edit says "I am Willy, and I have returned.", but that's it. How do we know it's Willy on Wheels, and not some other person named Willy? Their edits are also innocuous, whereas a troll would have jumped right into disruption. I don't see the connection here. TNXMan 18:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I had missed it - the "on Wheels" was added by an IP - that geolocates to Australia. So unconnected to the Willy Returns account. Which I did CU on the assumption that the addition was by the same chap - the underlying IP however is a US one. The only thing I would add is [2] - making an IP edit and then immediately creating an account to undo it is somewhat suspicious. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely agree that it is odd. However, I don't know if there's enough evidence of a problem to block the account. Making an anonymous edit, then creating an account isn't super-disruptive. TNXMan 19:25, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll unblock, or you can, if you think it's the better course. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've unblocked them -thanks figuring this out with me. Cheers! TNXMan 19:44, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Marking for close. TNXMan 16:20, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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28 April 2013[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets

• Billy on Meals (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)

• User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
• Editor interaction utility

I came across Billy on Meals the other day when he redirected WP:AIV to Willy (EastEnders). I've been chatting with Anemone Projectors about him since then and it's been suggested that he may be a sock of Willy on Wheels.

The evidence is that the names are similar and here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=User%3AWilly+on+Wheels&timestamp=20050101162347 Willy admits to editing encyclopedias containing articles on Willys.

I know it's quite a few years later but then Billy has performed this edit, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=next&oldid=551544009 directing AIV to Willy (EastEnders) and then this one directing Willy (EastEnders) to AIV http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Willy_%28EastEnders%29&diff=prev&oldid=551544113. He also redirected his own talk page to it http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Billy_on_Meals&diff=next&oldid=551544395.

Requesting Checkuser to see if these accounts are related and also to see if there are any sleepers. If these are related I think it would be highly unlikely that the user has not edited in over 8 years without creating another account. 5 albert square (talk) 14:03, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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• Given that DoRD already CU-blocked the account it's probably just DFTZ or another LTA trying to fake being WoW. I seriously doubt it's actually WoW. Legoktm (talk) 14:07, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

•  Clerk declined - I'm going to be bold and decline this since CU appears to have gotten this already and because the real WoW is long gone. Wouldn't be offended if a CU decided to take this however. Rschen7754 23:29, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• I CU-blocked the account, so you can assume that I ran a check at some point. If you look at my block log, there are some related accounts, but it's not necessary to list them here. In any case, I'm pretty sure that this isn't WoW. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Closing. Rschen7754 05:24, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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30 September 2013[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets

• Lower back tattoo on wheełs! (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
• Editor interaction utility

This person has a similar name and their only contrib is the creation of Willy on wheels, as seen here. Jns4eva (talk) 06:00, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I forgot to mention the other two articles: WILLY ON WHEELS and Jumbo Wheels, one of which is an attack page on Jimbo Wales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jns4eva (talk • contribs) 06:03, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

• WoW is long gone, but blocked as an obvious troll. Rschen7754 06:02, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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11 October 2017[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

• Willy and Wheel (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
• Editor interaction utility

Impeaston account MarkSewath (talk) 12:15, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

•  Check declined by a checkuser - Everything here is long-since  Stale. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 13:41, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Taking this directly to close - globally blocked account, no edits on this project at all. Risker (talk) 03:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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02 March 2019[edit]

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

• Chinese Embassy Ambassador on Tyres (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
• Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

Edit Summary: Willy on Wheels SwagGangster ^☎ 02:04, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seems I was too slow, this account was banned while I was writing this. SwagGangster ^☎ 02:05, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Willy_on_Wheels_(on_Wheels)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:April_Fools/April_Fools%27_Day_2005/Willy_on_Wheels_for_admin

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According to "the notes", Willy's IP address was in Cardiff, Wales using a fixed Virgin Media connection. Only one person knows who he is and she's not telling because "he's retired."

Late Night Fourth of July-Fifth of July, 2010 Session of #wikipedia IRC logs

This uploading of mostly-pointless IRC logs will never end.

Session Start: Sun Jul 04 23:17:57 2010

Session Ident: #wikipedia
[23:17] * Now talking in #wikipedia
[23:17] * Topic is 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Status: Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites are currently DOWN, but should be recovering now - results not guaranteed | No public logging | Specific Wikipedias: #wikipedia-<lang> | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/OiAr | For channel operator assistance, join #wikimedia-ops or, if urgent, type !ops'
[23:17] * Set by ChanServ on Sun Jul 04 22:33:31
[23:17] <***> Buffer Playback...
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:51:48] why are you no longer an admin?
[23:17] * Bidgee [04:51:51] became an Admin on Commons when I had 23,000 edits
[23:17] <Chaos_> [04:52:06] makes me laugh when ppl say they have 5000 edits and give themselves a nice shiny medal for it when 1500 are in user talk pages
[23:17] <Knew> [04:52:33] I used to be an admin.
[23:17] <Knew> [04:53:10] I won't give out my Wiki username though for privacy
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:53:31] ./msg Helpmebot !editcount <username>
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:53:35] tog et your edit count
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:53:38] to get
[23:17] <Geoffreyjhang_> [04:53:45] so do any engineers solve the problem......as soon as possible
[23:17] <Knew> [04:53:52] I was pretty good on Wikipedia, but I kept trying to get en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna to point at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_(entertainer)
[23:17] * Bidgee [04:54:14] has no desire to be a Wiki admin though, well not yet.
[23:17] <PiRSquared17> [04:54:23] it only count enwiki edits...
[23:17] <bumm13> [04:54:25] OlEnglish - fun fact: if you type /say , you don't have to do the "./command" deal you just did :)
[23:17] <Knew> [04:54:33] They need to pay admins.
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:54:38] thanks bumm13
[23:17] <bumm13> [04:54:43] no problemo
[23:17] <ronabop> [04:54:44] I've been around too long to have any desire to be an admin. :)
[23:17] <g0pher> [04:54:47] they back: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[23:17] <Knew> [04:54:49] Transition Wikipedia to premium content.
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:54:49] /say what
[23:17] <bumm13> [04:54:55] hiya ronabop
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:54:55] ahh it works :)
[23:17] <richardcavell> [04:55:21] OlEnglish: I resigned it voluntarily when a bureaucrat vetoed my !vote in an RfA
[23:17] <PiRSquared17> [04:55:33] msg test test
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:55:34] oic
[23:17] * Bidgee [04:55:40] slaps g0pher
[23:17] <PiRSquared17> [04:55:40] /msg test test
[23:17] <bumm13> [04:55:50] PiRSquared17: hmm?
[23:17] <Bidgee> [04:55:51] Still down for me
[23:17] <Geoffreyjhang_> [04:56:05] login page still has problem :(
[23:17] <rCX> [04:56:06] Can't log in :(
[23:17] <Knew> [04:56:11] Wikipedia sucks.
[23:17] <Knew> [04:56:17] It's run like the government.
[23:17] <g0pher> [04:56:22] try again - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page  came up fine
[23:17] <Knew> [04:56:33] Wikipedia is design by committee to the extreme.
[23:17] <PiRSquared17> [04:56:35] bumm13: testing /say
[23:17] <bumm13> [04:57:01] ah, the smell of sulfur from consumer fireworks...
[23:17] <Bidgee> [04:57:07] I'm getting 'Wikipedia has a problem, blah blah blah.....'
[23:17] <Richardguk> [04:57:14] http://twitter.com/wikimediatech 02:49:49 (UTC): "logmsgbot: tstarling synchronized php-1.5/wmf-config/db.php"
[23:17] <dragfyre> [04:57:15] still not working
[23:17] <bumm13> [04:57:17] yep, same
[23:17] <Anandawardhana> [04:57:17] its up again i see en wiki
[23:17] <richardcavell> [04:57:26] ./msg Helpmebot !editcount richardcavell
[23:17] <dragfyre> [04:57:28] commons is up tho
[23:17] <Knew> [04:57:32] Seriously we need to get rid of the voting/committee crap on Wikipedia.
[23:17] <dragfyre> [04:57:38] uh wait, no
[23:17] <richardcavell> [04:57:40] .msg Helpmebot !editcount richardcavell
[23:17] <Pokeyourheadoff_> [04:57:57] ...
[23:17] <richardcavell> [04:58:00] 12464
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:58:04] without the period richardcavell
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [04:58:18] /msg Helpmebot !editcount richardcavell
[23:17] <bumm13> [04:58:24] C:\>_
[23:17] <Knew> [04:58:26] Put ads on Wikipedia and pay people to write.
[23:17] <ronabop> [04:58:58] Put ads and pay for people to *not* write. :)
[23:17] <sh> [04:59:16] I'd get behind that. I love getting paid for not doing anything :P
[23:17] <Knew> [04:59:17] Well, the content is done
[23:17] <Knew> [04:59:28] We need to expand Wikipedia in the other mediums.
[23:17] <Knew> [04:59:41] Professional voice overs for each article.
[23:17] <Bidgee> [05:00:01] Professionals to clean-up some articles
[23:17] <Bidgee> [05:00:03] ;)
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [05:00:16] we already have that
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [05:00:28] it's called the public policy project or whatever
[23:17] <Knew> [05:00:30] And make God redirect to Madonna_(sexy_entertainer)
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [05:00:32] that ragesoss is starting
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [05:00:49] i'd link you to the page if i could
[23:17] <Chaos_> [05:00:56] professional whats ? Take 3 archaologist or scientists and put em in a room and they will probably not agree on most technical subjects
[23:17] <ronabop> [05:01:06] Spice Girls: article Narrated by James Earl Jones
[23:17] <Bidgee> [05:01:09] lol
[23:17] <Knew> [05:01:12] Without capitalism, representative democracy would fail on its own.
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [05:01:13] <ragesoss> In the longer term, the three things we hope to put in place with the public policy initiative are 1) the Campus Ambassadors program to have Wikipedians teach about Wikipedia and help recruit professors and assist with assignments on university campuses; 2) an Online Ambassadors program for volunteers to systematically help new users in more depth than usual (especially students in the courses of the professors from
[23:17] <OlEnglish> [05:01:13] <ragesoss> above); and 3) a good set of example assignments, teaching materials, and other media for helping new users and helping instructors run Wikipedia assignments.
[23:17] <Geoffreyjhang_> [05:01:27] zzz..... so I should edit wiki by IP username hahahaha......sign
[23:17] <Geoffreyjhang_> [05:02:32] Yeah! Login successed!!!
[23:17] <Chaos_> [05:03:12] k guys its 04:00here - sun is coming up and I best be ooff to bed - nite all
[23:17] <Bidgee> [05:03:16] Its alive!!!!
[23:17] <Bidgee> [05:03:30] Morning, I mean night! LOL
[23:17] <bumm13> [05:03:50] good riddance ;p
[23:17] <Bidgee> [05:04:14] Your mean! :P
[23:17] <bumm13> [05:04:35] heehee
[23:17] <dragfyre> [05:07:00] working!
[23:17] <bumm13> [05:07:05] yup!
[23:17] <ronabop> [05:07:19] yup!
[23:17] <PiRSquared17> [05:07:29] simple is read-only :(
[23:17] <Black_Phantom> [05:07:35] its WORKING
[23:17] <bumm13> [05:07:39] ||=||=|| (my ASCII art of the co-location center)
[23:17] <Black_Phantom> [05:07:41] it feels so good
[23:17] * Black_Phantom [05:07:46] hits refresh refresh
[23:17] <Black_Phantom> [05:07:48] its working !!
[23:17] <bumm13> [05:07:52] !!
[23:17] <Alice> [05:11:06] oh hey, wp:en is back again
[23:17] <bumm13> [05:11:09] yup!
[23:17] <bumm13> [05:11:21] light some fireworks off in celebration!
[23:17] <Geoffreyjhang> [05:12:16] Can't edit...... :(
[23:17] <Ashfire908> [05:12:31] They made it all read only
[23:17] <PiRSquared17> [05:12:42] :(
[23:17] <bumm13> [05:12:45] arg
[23:17] <ronabop> [05:12:58] Still bringing the slaves back....
[23:17] <Bidgee> [05:13:09] Slow though
[23:17] <Bidgee> [05:13:56] bit.wikimedia.org isn't loading
[23:17] <Ashfire908> [05:14:01] I've been sitting and watching people on -tech talk like non-stop... My internet dies, and when I get back everything's better.
[23:17] <***> Playback Complete.
[23:18] * me1 (~ausom@bzflag/player/Me1) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:18] * Geoffreyjhang (3de64ab5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.230.74.181) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
[23:19] * johnuniq (~johnuniq@wikipedia/johnuniq) Quit (Quit: terminated!)
[23:19] <SAGE-> hello
[23:19] <OlEnglish> hi
[23:19] <SAGE-> kewl
[23:19] <OlEnglish> radical
[23:19] * bumm13 (~bumm13@71-34-99-68.ptld.qwest.net) has left #wikipedia
[23:19] <SAGE-> an olenglisher
[23:19] <SAGE-> radical?
[23:20] <OlEnglish> <shrug>
[23:20] <SAGE-> hey what do you think..
[23:20] <OlEnglish> about?
[23:20] <SAGE-> is the ape planet run by somekind of overlords?
[23:21] <OlEnglish> which one?
[23:21] <richardcavell> Can anyone tell me: Is there a way to get an article reviewed other than nominating it as a good article?
[23:21] <OlEnglish> peer review
[23:21] <SAGE-> those who came from heaven
[23:21] <OlEnglish> see WP:Peer review
[23:21] <OlEnglish> i have no idea SAGE
[23:22] <SAGE-> ok
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[23:24] <OlEnglish> richardcavell: did that help?
[23:25] <richardcavell> OlEnglish: Yeah it did.  I'm nominating it now.
[23:25] <OlEnglish> great
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[23:27] <richardcavell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/The_Matty_Johns_Show/archive1
[23:27] <OlEnglish> looks good
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[23:28] <nick761> hey, so wikipedia was down earlier? how did that happen?
[23:29] <richardcavell> Can someone change the topic of this channel to reflect the fact that Wikipedia is up now?
[23:29] <OlEnglish> nick761: there was a power failure
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[23:29] <nick761> ah, I see
[23:29] <nick761> just not used to seeing wikipedia down ;)
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[23:29] <jimmmm> it was cool to see recent changes at rest
[23:29] <jimmmm> hehe
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[23:45] <Alice> and thus the channel dies
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[23:46] <richardcavell> Alice: We're all editing Wikipedia
[23:47] <Alice> a bunch of little mice tapping their buck teeth against keys
[23:47] <Alice> a legion of keyboarding mice
[23:47] <Alice> fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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[23:48] <PiRSquared17> 6546547567464b56jhyijkuloikl
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[23:50] <Bidgee> My "new talk page message" bar will not go away
[23:50] <Bidgee> :S
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[23:51] <PiRSquared17> bugzilla!
[23:52] <Alice> Bidgee: there should be a hide button
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[23:52] <OlEnglish> so quiet here now that enwiki's back up
[23:53] <OlEnglish> was raging just a few minutes ago :P
[23:53] <PiRSquared17> simplewiki is read-only :(
[23:53] <richardcavell> OlEnglish: Well we're busy writing an encyclopedia
[23:53] <Bidgee> simple really
[23:53] <Bidgee> ;)
[23:53] <OlEnglish> that's good!
[23:53] <OlEnglish> keep at it
[23:53] <Bidgee> hrrm my watchlist is blank
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[23:55] * Bidgee does off and does some ebaying instead (buying old photos [PD] for Commons]
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[23:55] <richardcavell> You're spending money to put stuff on Commons?
[23:55] <richardcavell> That's keen
[23:56] <Simon-_> hello
[23:57] <Simon-_> how long does it take for a sockpuppet investigation to appear?
[23:57] <OlEnglish> to appear?
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[23:58] <OlEnglish> as soon as someone hits 'save' i presume?
[23:58] <Bidgee> Well some old photos are very hard to get, I get the orignal and Commons gets a copy.
[23:58] <Seahorse> someone needs to fix irc.wikimedia.org
[23:59] <Simon-_> yeah as in appear on the main sockpuppet investigations list
[23:59] <Bidgee> someone needs to fix bits.wikimedia.org
[23:59] <Bidgee> You will have to add it yourself if you used TW
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[23:59] <Simon-_> what is TW?
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                                          And now some bonus talk about Austrian wine....