Friday, January 25, 2019

William Beutler, "the Wikipedian"

From time to time we go looking though search engine requests for the term "Wikipedia sucks" or "Wikipedia sucks blog", going pages deep to see if this very blog is quoted or linked to by anybody else beyond people we know or know about. One of these searches turned up this:

6. Wikipedia Needs Better CriticsWikipediocracy_logo Our 2013 installment listed the rise of Wikipediocracy, a website devoted to criticism of the Wikimedia movement. This time we’re here not to praise it, but to bury it. The site’s multi-contributor blog has published exactly once in the second half of the year, while its once-lively (and sometimes disreputable) discussion forum has slowed to a crawl. What happened? The biggest factor was the departure of its most serious contributor, Andreas Kolbe, who took his talents to The Signpost. Second was an apparent falling out between mainstays Greg Kohs and Eric Barbour. The latter went on to create an alternative site named, hysterically, Wikipedia Sucks! (And So Do Its Critics.).
The decline of Wikipediocracy highlights the dearth of effective Wikipedia criticism. What have we got? There’s the UK IT news site The Register, which harps on a few recurring themes of narrow appeal. There’s WikiInAction, affiliated with Gamergate, focused even more narrowly. Wikipedia Sucks is a joke, itself barely registering a pulse. For what it’s worth, The Wikipedian does not consider itself to be among their ranks. This site offers Wikipedia criticism, but will admit to being pro-Wikipedia in most ways; The Wikipedian is an apologist, if also a realist. And to drop the pretense for a moment, I don’t post often enough for it to matter but a few times a year.
There is something about Wikipedia criticism that attracts people with fringe views, who are not always the most stable personalities, and whose obsessions tend toward the arcane. Of course this is generally true of the gadfly profession, but when you consider that Wikipedia owes its very existence to freaks and geeks, it shouldn’t be any wonder that participants who hold themselves apart from mainstream Wikipedia may be stranger still.
As of late, the best criticism happens at The Signpost, especially under former editor Kolbe, and now under Pete Forsyth. Given the competition, however, that isn’t necessarily saying much.
That was from this article written by William Beutler, under his pen-name "The Wikipedian." Notice the artistic representation of the actual facts (which Beutler could have gotten from Mr. Barbour had he been willing to contact him) mixed with the idiot belief that it's Eric Barbour's blog and he is writing under a nom de plume when I have made it very clear that it isn't his (though I rely on work he and Peter Damian did for their own book project). Also I have been very open about the viewership this blog reaches - as of this moment, we have gotten 158,208 views total since the blog started in the Fall of 2014. So who the hell is Bill Beutler?


Just who the hell William Beutler is.

On Wikipedia he is NMS Bill, also WWB and WWB Too; he started editing in 2006. Beutler is one of the few people on en.Wikipedia who has been an open paid editor


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Sunday, January 6, 2019

More from China Uncensored.....

As the reader may know, Chris Chappell and the China Uncensored YouTube channel has been covered by the blog, and that odd knockoff of Colbert Report-era Stephen Colbert we call "Chris Chappell" has become an occasional joke here at Wikipedia Sucks! Because everybody loves the Falun Gong-connected China Uncensored show (maybe it's only the anti-Falun Gong sector of the mainland Chinese police) but mentioning the guy and the show brings in the eyeballs, even if those eyeballs are 'bots.



Above: Chappell talking to a crippled North Korean defector who made his way across the PRC on home-made crutches

So why not challenge the Peoples' love for the Chappell? Give us Chris, Google's least-profitable service!


More! We need MORE!! FILL THE PIGGIES' GULLETS WITH CHRIS!!!!!













The Inevitable "Conflict"



Above is a video from Winston Sterzel, who lives in Shenzhen, People's Republic of China and videoblogs on YouTube under the handle SerpentZA (he is one of those British South Africans). Sterzel speaks Mandarin Chinese fluently, has ridden around the country on motorcycle with his fellow expat YouTuber LaoWhy86 (Matthew Tye), etc. Because he is trying to run a motorcycle shop and deal with the complicated Chinese internet (he has to use a VPN to get stuff to YouTube, or he was at one point), Sterzel tells it like it is, but he is wary of unnecessarily ruffling feathers, and Falun Gong ruffles the Party's feathers inside mainland China. Deep in, he talks about China Uncensored and some previous drama that has been deleted or buried in some Chinese website. In the same video above he also talks about the Confucius Institute, a project run by the Chinese gov't. to pretty much control every Chinese language and East Asian Studies department in American colleges - good ol' San Diego State has hit that Flavor-Aid hard, check out their giant Confucius statue, also how they still have offices in the basement of Art and Letters and former office space in a building across the utility road. Not even "ranting hater of government waste and public education" Matt Potter of the San Diego Reader has had the balls to call out how the mainland Chinese have inserted themselves into SDSU.

Red China - We have Our fingers in a Billion pies.






Monday, December 31, 2018

Pointless Gibberish: the May 1-2, 2011 IRC logs

May 01 00:04:41 <Amgine> Reports that Saif al-Arab may be killed in air raid.  http://aljazeera.com/news/africa/2011/04/2011430224755721620.html
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May 01 13:46:45 <Danny_B|backup> does the foundation have any registration number, company identification number or something like that?
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May 01 13:50:04 <RoanKattouw> In the US you mean? I assume so
May 01 13:50:11 <RoanKattouw> You might find that on the 990 forms
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May 01 14:31:24 <Theo10011> Danny_B|backup: did you find you an answer?
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May 01 14:32:55 <Danny_B|backup> Theo10011: guillom pointed me to some documents mentioning "employer identification number" - so i suppose it is that. if you know about anything else, please let me know
May 01 14:33:01 <Theo10011> WMF is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization.
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May 01 14:33:44 <Theo10011> The registration paper are on WMF wiki, and they have a registration number.
May 01 14:33:49 <Theo10011> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:501(c)3_Letter.png
May 01 14:35:02 <guillom> That's the document I linked to :)
May 01 14:35:17 <guillom> That, and the latest Form 990.
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May 01 14:37:16 <Danny_B|backup> am i blind or the "refistration number" is not there?
May 01 14:37:29 <Danny_B|backup> what does "DLN" stand for?
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May 01 14:43:00 <effeietsanders> Danny_B|backup: Dillon Airport, Drivers License Number or Digital Learning Network
May 01 14:43:17 <effeietsanders> pick your favorite
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May 01 14:46:00 <Danny_B|backup> apparently none of those in case of that 501c3 letter
May 01 14:47:10 <Danny_B|backup> maybe document locator number?
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May 01 15:12:10 <subfr> hi, where can i get an up-to-date version of http://wikistics.falsikon.de/latest/wikibooks/fr/
May 01 15:12:35 <subfr> i want to see which page are most viewed on fr.wikibooks.org
May 01 15:12:41 <subfr> ?
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May 01 15:16:31 <effeietsanders> subfr: try stats.grok.se
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May 01 15:45:18 <subfr> thank you effeietsanders but it tells me "Most viewed articles in 201012" if i go to http://stats.grok.se/fr.b/201105/
May 01 15:45:22 <subfr> :-(
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May 01 15:45:39 <subfr> so i don't know if the stats are up to date
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May 01 15:50:21 <effeietsanders> subfr: doesnt sound too bad :)
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May 01 16:00:23 <subfr> effeietsanders, is there a way to know who are the referrers or the keywords used to find the content on google ?
May 01 16:00:48 <subfr> actually, i just need a full featured common stat tool :D
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May 01 16:04:42 <guillom> There is none at the moment.
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May 01 16:52:33 <jeremyb> Danny_B|backup: DLN is document locator # (99% certainty for your context): https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0104602012
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May 01 16:59:36 <Danny_B|backup> thx, jeremyb
May 01 16:59:47 <jeremyb> Danny_B|backup: wait a sec. what's that for?
May 01 17:00:28 <Danny_B|backup> agreement
May 01 17:00:35 <Danny_B|backup> so i used the EIN
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May 01 17:02:48 <jeremyb> Danny_B|backup: EIN's probably right... there's also http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx which says  C3162275 / C3093316 . i would check with vkessler or gbrigham (both @wikimedia.org)
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May 01 18:34:40 <jeremyb> Theo10011: i met guatam today, he's ~7 ft away now :) (never met him before and we ended up walking in the bldg front door together)
May 01 18:34:58 <Theo10011> heh
May 01 18:35:03 <Theo10011> I've never met him actually.
May 01 18:35:11 <jeremyb> http://transparencycamp.org/sessions/62/
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May 01 18:38:00 <Theo10011> Austin!
May 01 18:42:38 <dungodung> Hair!
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May 01 18:55:24 <aude> hi Austin
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May 01 19:00:17 <Austin> Hi
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May 01 19:17:22 <MC8> Is there a toolserver interwiki? e.g. [[ts:luxo]] → toolserver.org/~luxo/ ?
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May 01 19:22:10 <Tanvir> MC8, yeah, [[tools:~luxo]] will direct you to toolserver.org/~luxo.
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May 01 19:26:15 <Tanvir> Additionally there are inter-wiki for widely used tools, [[sulutil:Example]] for http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?&user=Example and [[luxo:Example]] is for http://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=Example.
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May 01 19:27:22 <Gfoley4> nice
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May 01 23:30:22 <Sophiie> hi, any foundation staff here?
May 01 23:30:50 <Jhs> Sophiie, any in particular or just anyone?
May 01 23:30:58 <Sophiie> anyone
May 01 23:31:04 <Sophiie> dont mind who :)
May 01 23:31:06 <Jhs> AlexZ_
May 01 23:31:29 <Jhs> well, many, but i don't wanna ping them all :P
May 01 23:31:45 <Jhs> i can pm you if you want
May 01 23:31:46 <Sophiie> any what isnt away would help :)
May 01 23:31:55 <Sophiie> Alex has been idle 41hrs
May 01 23:32:01 <Sophiie> :(
May 01 23:32:16 <RoanKattouw_away> Sophiie: It's Saturday, so probably no WMF staff around ;)
May 01 23:32:28 <Amgine> Especially no WMF devs.
May 01 23:32:37 * RoanKattouw_away is here
May 01 23:32:41 <Sophiie> i thought it was sunday
May 01 23:32:44 <Sophiie> :P
May 01 23:32:46 <RoanKattouw_away> For about one minute before I go to bed
May 01 23:32:51 <RoanKattouw_away> Dammit, you're right, it is Sunday
May 01 23:32:54 <RoanKattouw_away> See, I need sleep
May 01 23:33:01 <Amgine> Gnite Roan!
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May 01 23:33:26 <Amgine> Sophiie: Generally it's better to just ask, unless it's something requiring serious privacy.
May 01 23:33:33 <Amgine> Lots of non-staff may be able to help you.
May 01 23:33:38 <Sophiie> it does involved pricicy
May 01 23:33:44 <Sophiie> * pricacy
May 01 23:33:48 <Amgine> Then talk to anyone but me.
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May 02 11:52:02 <Jhs> kibble, you here? :)
May 02 11:52:41 <dungodung> he's likely sleeping
May 02 11:52:47 <Jhs> yeah, probably
May 02 11:52:57 * dungodung hugs Jhs
May 02 11:53:03 <Jhs> :))
May 02 11:55:33 <Jhs> dungodung, did you get the announcement i sent about the election? i sent it to a shitload of lists, but it was probably caught in a filter (because i sent it to a shitload of lists)
May 02 11:55:44 <Jhs> i can't find it in any of the archives
May 02 11:55:57 <dungodung> no, got none
May 02 11:56:15 <Jhs> hmm
May 02 11:58:14 <Jhs> they alle got rejected. that explains it. and gmail is a bitch, so it didn't tell me until i looked myself
May 02 12:01:09 <Jhs> hmm, no mailing list for wikibooks. strange.
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May 02 12:02:53 <Jhs> shoot, now i sent it to all the lists with "Re:" in the title. oh well.
May 02 12:03:06 <LeBron> Fwd:
May 02 12:04:28 <Jhs> Nah, I hit "reply all" to reinclude all of the addresses, and then just removed the quotation stuff, but Gmail automatically added the Re:
May 02 12:04:57 <LeBron> I have a Fwd: but no Re:
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May 02 12:07:25 <Thehelpfulone> Jhs: do you have outlook?
May 02 12:07:25 <Jhs> ah yeah, i forwarded it to internal and wmfcc
May 02 12:07:27 <Thehelpfulone> there's a button you press in outlook that re-sends it without any of the quote: send: time: and Re in the subject
May 02 12:07:28 <Thehelpfulone> I found out about it recently :D
May 02 12:07:48 <Jhs> Thehelpfulone, nah, just Gmail interface
May 02 12:07:59 <Thehelpfulone> heh :)
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May 02 12:09:47 <dungodung> Jhs: received :D
May 02 12:09:55 <Jhs> great :D
May 02 12:10:45 <Jhs> i was so careful to post it at exactly 00:01 UTC, was waiting up for more than an hour to do that. and then it turns out that it was autorejected. :/
May 02 12:10:55 <Jhs> oh well, mission accomplished now
May 02 12:11:34 <dungodung> :D
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May 02 16:06:25 <Sophiie[iPhone]> Any foundation staff in here?
May 02 16:07:14 <guillom> No.
May 02 16:07:57 <Sophiie[iPhone]> Oh
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May 02 16:23:32 <GerardM-> it is only bishops, cardinals and popes who wear staffs
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May 02 16:24:58 <Sophiie[iPhone]> Isn't a staff another name for a long stick?
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May 02 16:26:25 <Thehelpfulone> Sophiie[iPhone]: yes
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May 02 20:35:52 <jtrucks> nsi sumanah
May 02 20:35:56 <jtrucks> oops
May 02 20:37:15 <Pharos> hi wikimedes
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May 02 21:06:04 <Amgine> <taps dungodung politely on the shoulder>
May 02 21:06:23 <dungodung> hi amgine :)
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May 02 21:06:40 <Amgine> Hiya! can you usurp a channel for us?
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May 02 21:07:07 <dungodung> which one?
May 02 21:07:18 <Amgine> #Wikinews-en-admins
May 02 21:07:35 <Amgine> None of the f are currently admins, and none of the current admins have f
May 02 21:07:45 <dungodung> have you tried contacting james?
May 02 21:07:55 <Amgine> I think they have, but no response yet.
May 02 21:08:13 <dungodung> ah, I remember having instructed someone to contact him about it
May 02 21:08:22 <Amgine> <they're, typically, impatient> <laughs!>
May 02 21:08:24 <dungodung> well, in that case, I guess I can usurp it ;)
May 02 21:08:49 <dungodung> who do you think should have f?
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May 02 21:09:05 <Amgine> Mmm, Blood Red Sandman, usual IRC nick is B-R-S
May 02 21:09:44 <dungodung> alright
May 02 21:12:03 <Myra> Abuse.
May 02 21:12:19 <Amgine> <watches>
May 02 21:12:56 * dungodung giggles
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May 02 21:20:30 <dungodung> Amgine: done
May 02 21:20:59 <Amgine> Whee! Thanks dungoung!
May 02 21:21:23 <killiondude> Abuse.
May 02 21:21:48 <Amgine> Is that a Shirleyism?
May 02 21:22:28 <Myra> Do you want it to be?
May 02 21:22:35 <killiondude> I think I started that.
May 02 21:22:46 <killiondude> It's difficult to tell anymore.
May 02 21:22:57 <dungodung> :P
May 02 21:23:14 <dungodung> why do people always misspell my nickname? :D
May 02 21:23:20 <killiondude> dungdung
May 02 21:23:23 <Myra> Tab-completion is hard.
May 02 21:23:29 <dungodung> (and a better question: why don't they use tab-completion?)
May 02 21:23:37 <Myra> I'm hard.
May 02 21:23:42 <dungodung> kinky
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May 02 21:23:51 <Amgine> Because my 'd' is sticky...
May 02 21:24:04 <Myra> That's a euphemism.
May 02 21:24:04 <killiondude> Oh my.
May 02 21:24:11 <dungodung> yeah...
May 02 21:24:13 <Amgine> <grins>
May 02 21:24:21 <Nemo_bis> dungodung, Amgine wants to fully enjoy the pleasure of spelling your name
May 02 21:24:35 <dungodung> Nemo_bis: you're alive!
May 02 21:24:44 <killiondude> RIP.
May 02 21:24:53 <dungodung> <3
May 02 21:25:25 <Myra> > "Oh, also ...," in text messages
May 02 21:25:28 <Nemo_bis> more or less
May 02 21:25:30 <Myra> What would that be?
May 02 21:25:39 <Myra> Three letters.
May 02 21:25:52 <killiondude> hey
May 02 21:26:04 <Amgine> wut?
May 02 21:26:56 <Myra> Both of those are silly answers.
May 02 21:27:00 <Myra> I have NT_.
May 02 21:27:12 <Myra> Though the N is questionable.
May 02 21:27:18 <killiondude> btw
May 02 21:27:37 <Amgine> sht I dno.
May 02 21:27:46 <Myra> btw might work.
May 02 21:27:55 <killiondude> y'think
May 02 21:27:56 <Myra> It screws up "SHUN" going down, though.
May 02 21:28:02 <Myra> > Social slight
May 02 21:28:06 <Myra> S_UB
May 02 21:28:10 <Myra> Hmmm.
May 02 21:28:12 <Myra> Oh, snub.
May 02 21:28:22 <killiondude> You're silly.
May 02 21:28:33 <dungodung> I have no idea what y'all are talking aboot
May 02 21:28:49 <Myra> dungodung has been influenced by the Canada.
May 02 21:29:02 <killiondude> NYT crossword puzzle.
May 02 21:29:09 <Myra> How do you say "sea" in French?
May 02 21:29:13 <killiondude> mar
May 02 21:29:14 <Myra> It's not MAR?
May 02 21:29:15 <Amgine> mar
May 02 21:29:18 <Myra> Hmm,
May 02 21:29:19 <Amgine> mer
May 02 21:29:27 <Myra> Does MER also work?
May 02 21:29:35 <Myra> I have it cross-sectioned with cat noise (MEW).
May 02 21:29:36 <killiondude> yes.
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May 02 21:29:38 <Amgine> [[wikt:mer]]
May 02 21:29:39 <killiondude> http://translate.google.com/#en|fr|sea
May 02 21:29:42 <Myra> French is the worst.
May 02 21:29:44 <Myra> No cheating!
May 02 21:29:55 <killiondude> You're cheating at this very moment.
May 02 21:30:01 <Amgine> And asking in chan is what?
May 02 21:30:03 <Myra> PRove it.
May 02 21:30:05 <Myra> Prove it.
May 02 21:30:10 <killiondude> SHun.
May 02 21:30:13 <Myra> Asking others you know isn't cheating.
May 02 21:30:24 <killiondude> I know Google.
May 02 21:30:26 <killiondude> In the biblical sense.
May 02 21:30:31 <Amgine> <knows google translate intimately>
May 02 21:30:32 <Myra> In the b... damn you.
May 02 21:30:47 <Myra> The Cure was around in the 1980s?
May 02 21:30:51 <Amgine> Yes
May 02 21:31:41 <Myra> > Seabird
May 02 21:31:49 <Myra> TER_
May 02 21:31:56 <Amgine> tern
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May 02 21:32:01 <Myra> Terp is a turtle, ters doesn't .. ah.
May 02 21:32:14 * Myra circles that one.
May 02 21:32:45 <Amgine> tern ? ternary : it's not
May 02 21:33:11 <Myra> PRAWN makes more sense than CRAWS.
May 02 21:33:14 <Myra> gj Myra
May 02 21:33:26 <Myra> Greek goddess of strife is...
May 02 21:33:33 <Myra> ERIS?
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May 02 21:33:34 <Amgine> craws are (more commonly, US) freshwater.
May 02 21:33:38 <killiondude> no
May 02 21:33:53 <killiondude> oh maybe yes
May 02 21:33:59 <killiondude> :(
May 02 21:34:14 <Myra> > Handle roughly
May 02 21:34:18 <Myra> _AWAT
May 02 21:34:32 <Myra> Caw at?
May 02 21:34:42 <Amgine> paw at
May 02 21:34:47 <Myra> That works.
May 02 21:34:49 <killiondude> gnaw at
May 02 21:34:57 <Myra> killiondude: That wouldn't fit, silly.
May 02 21:35:06 <killiondude> I like it better.
May 02 21:35:51 <Myra> > Rocky hill
May 02 21:35:52 <Myra> TO_
May 02 21:35:54 <Myra> TOL?
May 02 21:36:03 <Myra> Geography terms are the worst.
May 02 21:36:27 <Pharos> i *love* geography terms
May 02 21:36:38 <killiondude> The Sutter Buttes aren't really buttes
May 02 21:36:40 <killiondude> !!!
May 02 21:36:51 <Myra> Super butts.
May 02 21:37:14 <Amgine> powerful fag ends.
May 02 21:37:28 <Myra> Writer Anais
May 02 21:37:32 <Amgine> Nin
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May 02 21:38:31 <Myra> Is "tol" a real word?
May 02 21:38:38 <Myra> Let's say yes.
May 02 21:38:48 <Amgine> Yes, 'tis
May 02 21:39:03 <Myra> _O___OMELYCLEFT
May 02 21:39:16 <Myra> Actor nominee for "From Here to Eternity"
May 02 21:39:22 <Amgine> how many is that between O and O
May 02 21:39:27 <Myra> Three.
May 02 21:39:42 <Myra> Oh, it's TOW.
May 02 21:39:52 <Myra> Wycleft makes more sense, doesn't it?
May 02 21:40:15 <Amgine> something homely cleft...
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May 02 21:40:28 <Amgine> probably related to the gluteal cleft.
May 02 21:41:02 <Myra> > Mine, in Marseille
May 02 21:41:12 <Myra> _MOI?
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May 02 21:41:56 <Amgine> s'moi?
May 02 21:43:13 <Amgine> no, à moi
May 02 21:43:40 <Myra> Go-___
May 02 21:43:48 <Myra> K_R_
May 02 21:43:54 <Myra> I keep thinking "FISH".
May 02 21:44:02 <Myra> I also have "Go pro" in my head.
May 02 21:44:06 <killiondude> karp
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May 02 21:44:10 <Myra> kart?
May 02 21:44:14 <Amgine> kart
May 02 21:44:29 <Amgine> <trivial minds unite>
May 02 21:44:41 <Myra> TOR?
May 02 21:44:55 <Myra> MONTGOMERYCLEFT
May 02 21:45:41 <Myra> All right.
May 02 21:45:45 <Myra> Let's check it!
May 02 21:46:19 <Myra> Oh, fuck.
May 02 21:46:21 <Myra> CLIFT
May 02 21:46:45 <Amgine> <chuckles>
May 02 21:46:48 <Myra> Fuck me.
May 02 21:46:54 <Myra> So close to a perfect puzzle.
May 02 21:46:58 <Myra> I missed one.
May 02 21:47:46 <Amgine> cheater.
May 02 21:47:53 <Myra> Prove it.
May 02 21:48:02 <Myra> HIFALUTIN
May 02 21:48:06 <Myra> Not HIFALUTEN
May 02 21:48:10 <Myra> FML.
May 02 21:48:15 <Amgine> I had to look up 'mine' in my french text.
May 02 21:48:19 <killiondude> You are quite possibly the worst.
May 02 21:48:31 <Myra> killiondude: Unsubstantiated.
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May 02 21:48:42 <Myra> Goodbye, AntiSpamMeta.
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May 02 21:48:53 <Myra> Goodbye, PeterSymonds.
May 02 21:50:08 <Myra> AONE is a bullshit answer.
May 02 21:50:19 <Myra> "Super-duper" was the clue.
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May 02 21:51:22 <killiondude> I don't like the NYT crossword puzzles.
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May 02 21:52:23 <Amgine> <hates crosswords with multiword, contractions, without necessary punctuation.>
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